best time to shoot for a double?

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  1. blueman11

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    when they least expect it
     
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    A lot of it has to do with how you set up your double leg.

    If they are standing up straight and keeping a high center of gravity it is a good idea.
    Change levels and see how they react, if they are slow to react or don't at all its a good time to shoot. On the other end of the spectrum I've seen guys fake a shot and the other guy will go straight to a sprawl and give up the takedown.
    If you can get a good penetrating step, the distance should be just right.
    If they are off balance.


    There's a hundred different ways to set up a double, but the most important times to shoot are when the opponent is slow, failing to change levels, is off balance, or has a high center of gravity.
     
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    when your opponent is knotting his belt.
     
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    Im learning wrestling now and I am having the most success shooting immediately after defending my opponents shot or faking a shot of my own, getting a reaction out of him, then immediately shooting again.

    All the set ups in wrestling are to get your opponent to shift his weight or off balance him...so why not just take advantage of the fact that after a shot or after reacting to one of my shots his balance will already be off?? Seemed to make the most sense to me, and it seems to be working

    So try that...or try changing your angle ever so slightly

    BTW - I am kind of surprised at all the douchebag answers you got....this forum is usually more helpful and serious. Usually you get a lot of great advice not terrible attempts at humor (thats what the HW forum is for)
     
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    Yep, I laughed.
     
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    I just shoot like 1/10 people can stop my shoot even if they are prepared so just drive them to the fence or wall if u havent gotten them down lift up SLAM
     
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    before he kicks your ass all over those fries.
     
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    That just sounds painful...and mean.
     
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    Whenever yur opponent is not in a perfect stance. use set ups, tie up, fake shots, reshots.

    when yur opponent is off-balance that is when u shoot in, make sure yur in close, change levels, penetration step with foot between their legs, drive/turn the corner.
     
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    I was told that the best time to shoot a double was when your opponent is stepping backwards. This was in MMA class though, but I'm pretty sure the same holds true for pure grappling.

    I was also told to set the double up with a striking combination to make your opponent pedal backward, then immediately shoot.
     
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    after shifting his weight with a high C
     
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    When he pops straight up after you snap him down.
     
  18. xcydal

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    Set up an angle, maybe get head/arm control, lower your level and shoot. You can be pro active insted of reactive.
     
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    Not really, you want his weight moving forward when you shoot. If he is moving backward his weight is already moving away from your control, an it will be easier for him to sprawl and get his hips away.
     
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    my favorit setup with the GI is to pull on their collar so you make them take a step forward then immediately shoot, been pretty high % for me.
     

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