Best TD technique to get someone down

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  1. big_kahuna Problem?

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    Question for all you wrestling/bjj guys in here. (or any other discipline)

    What kind of takedown would you say is the best/easiest/most reliable to get the average person down? We'll assume the person is untrained.
    single, double, some kind of trip?

    Would like to get some opinions.
    Thanks
     
  2. armtriangle Brown Belt

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    It obviously depends on the energy and stance of the other guy. It also depends on the size of the other guy and your size.

    For most of us, a double leg is probably the highest percentage and most common takedown.

    But I wouldn't try a double on a guy that was 50 poubds heavier... so basically, there is no answer.
     
  3. Andrew Green White Belt

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    There is no best, thats why there is variety in what the top guys do.

    Single legs seem most common in high level freestyle wrestling, but with a variety of setups & finishes.

    But in the end a lot of it is going to just come down to what you put the most time into and what works for your body type / overall style.
     
  4. MMA junkie Purple Belt

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    sweeep the leg!

    As for what takedown would be best. Depends on several things, mostly due to you and your opponent. How big your opponent is would factor in, what type of stance is he in, and obviously your skillsets/physical attributes also.
     
  5. kosen White Belt

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    I would go for a double.
     
  6. big_kahuna Problem?

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    Ok, thanks for the answers.

    Let's say the opponent is more or less the same size but probably shorter and in a neutral stance. (ie just standing upright)
     
  7. SuperSuperRambo Steel Belt

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    The one you're best at.

    I would go for upper body takedowns, feels safer. Then again you risk getting punched on the way in if you don't know how to set up the clinch right. It really depends on what you're good at.
     
  8. Lutador011 Blue Belt

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    I would avoid hip throws unless you are good at them. turning your back to an opponent is risky.

    I think arm drags to get to their back are very effective on an untrained person. Once you're behind them TD is easy
     
  9. Uchi Mata Preaching the gospel of heel hooks and left kicks

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    pull guard.
     
  10. AKwrestler49** Yellow Belt

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    shotwise - for me its not so much the type of takedown just that you have a fast shot
    clinch takedowns - i dont like hip throws as they are risky, im more of a trip guy
     
  11. Rod1 Titanium Belt

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    Headlock hipthrow seems the easiest against untrained fella
     
  12. redaxe Silver Belt

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    What are the rules? Is this a grappling match? An MMA fight? A schoolyard brawl?
     
  13. Leviathan333 Robot

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    Thai clinch + knees would be superior to a takedown.
    Less chance of getting jumped when you're on the ground, and they'll be totally helpless and open to attack, and can transition to takedown if you desire.
     
  14. cenix Orange Belt

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    double or single leg. an untrained guy will not know to sprawl.
     
  15. futang17 Green Belt

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    you implied that people are less inclined to jump in when you're clinched... if you're outnumber don't matter if it's ground or clinch, RUN
     
  16. big_kahuna Problem?

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    I was thinking more like a streetfight.
     
  17. Eddieg Brown Belt

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    Trip seems safest IMO.
     
  18. redaxe Silver Belt

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    I wouldn't want a streetfight to go to the ground. If I didn't have a choice though, ideally I would pummel for double underhooks and trip the guy, then get knee on belly and drop some bombs.
     
  19. Respeezy Purple Belt

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    Punch-to-the-jaw-takedown gets 'm down pretty quick.
     
  20. Disastorm White Belt

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    What about judo throws, or do those take alot of technical skill, i.e. probably easier to just use a leg takedown or trip? I know Ive been doing Judo for a few months and the throws are insanely hard to pull off on other Judo guys, but I've never tried it on an untrained guy so I don't know how hard it is. Do any of you know?
     

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