Best sub grappler out of:

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  1. Escabar

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    Who do you think is the best submission grappler out of the following?
    1. Mario Sperry
    2. Rickson Gracie
    3. Dean Lister
    4. JJ Machado
    5. Marcelo Garcia
     
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    jacare?
     
  3. Escabar

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    if i added him i would have to add roger gracie and the list would be too long
     
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    i'd have to go with machado
     
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    how can u have machado after lister just beat him 8-0 even if there was a weight advantage

    I'd say Garcia
     
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    WEll, if you were to talk about recent losses, Jacare made Garcia look like a white belt. But out of that list Garcia is the best. Rickson doesn't even compete, Sperry didn't do so well in 03, Lister is good but doesn't compete too often, and Machado is getting old.
     
  7. Escabar

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    he had alot less time to perpare for that match then lister as he replaced arona who pulled out late. Plus he had been inactive for quit a long period of time before that match.
     
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    Marcelo Garcia
     
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    Marcelo definitely if all the other contenders at his level arent mentioned.
     
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    Lister!!
     
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    Wrong, Machado was in training cuz he was going to be in the tournament. Same weight class as Marcelo. It had been rumored that they were going to match them together in the first round.
     
  13. Ybot

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    I would have rather seen that than Lister Machado. I'm not gonna comlain though, 2005 ADCC was great anyway.

    Oh, and I would also have to say that Garcia is the best of the list. I'd go as far as saying that Garcia is definitly top 10 of all sub grappling competitors if not top 5. Lister would be up there too, but has he even competed since ADCC? I don't know.
     
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    guardpasser Tudo Bem Bjj

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    at this time garcia is the best on the list you made
     
  15. Shadowdean

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    In their prime? Potential?

    Overall, I say Garcia.
     
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    Marcelo, he is also the lightest
     
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    Lister.
     
  18. Ybot

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    It's been a while since I've seen the Gracies in Action videos... Has anyone seen any footage of Rickson in strait no-gi/sub-grappling matches? Why'd ya pick the people on this list?
     
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    Sakuraba. Yeah, he was the invisible number six on that list.
     
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    These guys are all of (1) different eras, (2) weight classes, (3) gi vs. no gi, etc.

    Impossible to compare for sure. But I think pure grappling, more BB's have said that Rickson is hands down the best.
     

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