Best of the non-custom mouthguards?

[USAMMAFAN]

What is your guys opinions of the best non-custom mouthguards for full contact MMA competition or hard sparring?

Not everyone can afford the biteme's or opro's or dentist made ones, so if you had to get a boil and bite which would it be?

I have heard about shockdoctor and brainpad, some older threads seemed to like the shockdoctor better then the brainpad.

Are they any other inexpensive non customizable mouthguards that are better then the shockdoctor?

Thanks

 

[LCDforMe]

I have a shockdoctor. Been working good for me latley. I plan on getting a new one soon...I have the 5 dollar one and want to get the 15 or 20 dollar one.

 

[Foxx_MMA]

Look not to sound like an elitest here but seriously save your money and get a good custom one. The 50-100 bucks you will spend will be FAR less than you will spend if you get your teeth rearranged with a cheap mouthguard. Think of this as an investment in your face your teeth will thank you.

 

[Madmick]

Brainpad. My boxing partner prefers the LoPro, but I like the standard.

 

[Madmick]

Look not to sound like an elitest here but seriously save your money and get a good custom one. The 50-100 bucks you will spend will be FAR less than you will spend if you get your teeth rearranged with a cheap mouthguard. Think of this as an investment in your face your teeth will thank you.

I'd think statistics would be useful to qualify that statement, because as it stands, I don't agree with you.

I've never seen anyone hurt their mouth with a quality non-custom mouthpiece.

 

[Adino]

I like my shockDr gel max. For less than $10 it's great till I can afford something nicer.

 

[Foxx_MMA]

people have posted in this forum about chipping teeth using shockdoctors i will try to find the exact post and after using a shockdoctor and now an opro i have no doubt in my mind my teeth are far safer behind and opro than a boil and bite

 

[Foxx_MMA]

found the thread
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=305223
notable post #4
i just dont feel the risks in using a cheaper mouthguard outweight the price. Plus being able to breathe better is a huge plus in my book

 

[RetiredWisFighter]

i get hit pretty damn hard and my brainpad does the job

 

[Rotund Grappler]

i had a $20 shock doctor back in the day for rugby, but i boiled it to shit and ruined it.

 

[UltimaMMA]

I used a shock doctor for the longest time and was ok with it. i had to replace it cuz i kept chewing it to bits. plus after too many hits, you tend to gnaw away at it.

 

[migo**]

Trey Brown got several thousand dollars worth of damage to his teeth wearing a boil and bite mouthguard in a fight.

 

[icedog11]

I'd think statistics would be useful to qualify that statement, because as it stands, I don't agree with you.

I've never seen anyone hurt their mouth with a quality non-custom mouthpiece.

Materials Engineering, The Open University, Milton Keynes, United Kingdom.

OBJECTIVE: To use a simulated upper jaw made from a rubber arch containing replaceable ceramic teeth and a renewable composite ceramic jawbone to compare the effectiveness of seven custom made mouthguard designs and a "boil and bite" mouthguard. METHODS: Following an earlier development of a standard impact test using a selection of projectile shapes and energies, the most sensitive conditions were selected. These were then applied to a series of six guards constructed in ethylene vinyl acetate and styrene butadiene. The guards were constructed to reflect possible variations in both design and materials. RESULTS:
Significant differences between the mouthguard performances were observed in response to the impact conditions selected. All the custom made designs gave better performance than the "boil and bite" mouthguard.

 

[sir037]

What's the web addy to Bite Me?

 

[Madmick]

Materials Engineering, The Open University, Milton Keynes, United Kingdom.

OBJECTIVE: To use a simulated upper jaw made from a rubber arch containing replaceable ceramic teeth and a renewable composite ceramic jawbone to compare the effectiveness of seven custom made mouthguard designs and a "boil and bite" mouthguard. METHODS: Following an earlier development of a standard impact test using a selection of projectile shapes and energies, the most sensitive conditions were selected. These were then applied to a series of six guards constructed in ethylene vinyl acetate and styrene butadiene. The guards were constructed to reflect possible variations in both design and materials. RESULTS:
Significant differences between the mouthguard performances were observed in response to the impact conditions selected. All the custom made designs gave better performance than the "boil and bite" mouthguard.

This is a good start, but that custom mouthguards were superior wasn't in question. To what degree is what I want to know. That's a pitiful publication of results.

How many of the tested were injured in the test? How many had non-custom mouthguards? To what degree did the damage suffered differ?

To the poster who mentioned Shock Doctors, I've read that thread, but I urge everyone to remember that this is just one product. Shock Doctors aren't well reviewed, but I've never read anyone here saying they got hurt with a Brainpad.

 

[migo**]

What's the web addy to Bite Me?

www.bitememouthguards.net

 

[migo**]

This is a good start, but that custom mouthguards were superior wasn't in question. To what degree is what I want to know. That's a pitiful publication of results.

How many of the tested were injured in the test? How many had non-custom mouthguards? To what degree did the damage suffered differ?

To the poster who mentioned Shock Doctors, I've read that thread, but I urge everyone to remember that this is just one product. Shock Doctors aren't well reviewed, but I've never read anyone here saying they got hurt with a Brainpad.

I suppose that's a valid question, but the money you save because of the better protection of custom mouthguards is definitely worth it if you do get your teeth knocked out.

 

[USAMMAFAN]

This is a good start, but that custom mouthguards were superior wasn't in question. To what degree is what I want to know. That's a pitiful publication of results.

How many of the tested were injured in the test? How many had non-custom mouthguards? To what degree did the damage suffered differ?

To the poster who mentioned Shock Doctors, I've read that thread, but I urge everyone to remember that this is just one product. Shock Doctors aren't well reviewed, but I've never read anyone here saying they got hurt with a Brainpad.

These are good questions, I currently have a brainpad, and have never had a problem with it in two years of pretty hard sparring, although I have never tried a single since the brain pad is a double, it seems that singles are easier to breathe out of.

The reason I started this thread was because the brainpads are double's, i was wondering if a single boil and bite might be easier to breathe out when compared to the brainpad, yet still offer good protection (shockdoctor)

 

[icedog11]

This is a good start, but that custom mouthguards were superior wasn't in question. To what degree is what I want to know. That's a pitiful publication of results.

How many of the tested were injured in the test? How many had non-custom mouthguards? To what degree did the damage suffered differ?

To the poster who mentioned Shock Doctors, I've read that thread, but I urge everyone to remember that this is just one product. Shock Doctors aren't well reviewed, but I've never read anyone here saying they got hurt with a Brainpad.

According to the American Academy of Sports Dentistry the difference in protection from a boil and bite to a custom type IV mouthguard is about 1000%. I apologize for not posting the entire study but only the abstract. These studies are long technical and proprietary. Most of the epidemiological studies done on athletes and resulting oral injuries are sport specific and as well as team specific, there are no reliable resources for entire populations of athletes. How could one could follow all matches in mma compile data on type of mouthguard worn, whether the guard was fitted properly and worn correctly, and the resulting injuries. It would be impossible to gather enough reliable data to be statistically valid. We have to rely on university studies that demonstrate the effectiveness of one type of fabrication over another, thickness of material, material composition, and then make judgments based on this data.

 

[mxyzptlk]

This is a good start, but that custom mouthguards were superior wasn't in question. To what degree is what I want to know. That's a pitiful publication of results.

How many of the tested were injured in the test? How many had non-custom mouthguards? To what degree did the damage suffered differ?

1. What Icedog posted was an extract from a scientific paper. It's not meant to be a full publication/analysis of the study.

2. The abstract states "a simulated upper jaw made from a rubber arch containing replaceable ceramic teeth and a renewable composite ceramic jawbone to compare the effectiveness of seven custom made mouthguard designs and a "boil and bite" mouthguard." So to answer your questions:

~ No one was injured in the test because people weren't used. It wouldn't be ethical in a study like this. They simulated an upper jaw made from a rubber arch containing replaceableceramic teeth, and a ceramic jawbone.

~ They had seven (7) custom-made mouthguards and one (1) "boil-and-bite."

Icedog cites the study so you should be able to find it, although it may cost you money. He wouldn't be allowed to reproduce/publish the detailed findings here legally.

No flame intended.