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Best Intructional Book or DVD for Knife/Gun Defense

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by Glen Sonnabend, Jul 14, 2010.

  1. Glen Sonnabend

    Glen Sonnabend Amateur Fighter

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    Title says it all. Im looking for a book or DVD that shows practical BJJ defense to real life situations, such as gun, knife, and other weapons.
     
  2. SuperSuperRambo

    SuperSuperRambo Senior Moderator Senior Moderator

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    For knife or gun defense, I don't know if you want a BJJ video. Helio and Rorion and their line have demonstrated some weapons defense (even Rickson and Royler demo'd it in Pride), but I don't think those are the best weapons defenses. Your best bet is to look into some of the martial arts that deal with weapons fighting i.e. Kali/Escrima.
     
  3. MUFC

    MUFC Brown Belt

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    I don't know if there are any Kali dvds, but if there are, get one. We have a Kali class that deals with this stuff, but I have never bothered going as I am bullet proof.
     
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    bnosam Green Belt

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    The best defense is a wallet and good pair of shoes.
     
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    lechien Gold Belt

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    teamcarvalho Green Belt

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    Your right on about this...their knife defense is scary....would never use it. Kali is the best bet for knife defense. There are good gun takeaways out there just have to learn them.
     
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    teamcarvalho Green Belt

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    That shit is fucking funny.......I picture this guy having a 70's porn mustache and wearing mirrored glasses.
     
  10. Jesus X

    Jesus X Gold Belt

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    best gun defense is a gun , best knife defense is again a gun
     
  11. bnosam

    bnosam Green Belt

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    He probably learned his self defense from aikido and karate.
     
  12. Balto

    Balto Silver Belt

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    I second this.

    I have seen the Gracie self defense against a knife, and I don't find it to be particularly effective. The truth is that it is extremely difficult to defend against a knife empty handed regardless of your skill in the martial arts, but if you are going to maximize your chances, the Gracie ways are not ideal.

    I learned Kali from some pretty experienced knife guys, and I have always found Kali to be a good starting point for those types of techniques.
     
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    teamcarvalho Green Belt

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    I agree...I show my students the knife defenses I learned from my Kali training. Plus I provide knife training along with the BJJ classes.
     
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    Good question Krav Maga is a safe bet but its no good reading about it you need to be drilled till its a reflex!
     
  15. BSFT

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    bnosam Green Belt

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    Quoted for the truth.
     
  17. mikecello

    mikecello ...in bed belt

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    I take Kali as well. Look up if Rick Faye ever produced a DVD or wrote a book. Nice guy.
     
  18. Tony Manifold

    Tony Manifold Brown Belt

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    I am actually going to be working some BJJ with weapons this weekend with some guys I know. BJJ can work with weapons but most of the stuff out there is old school judo goshin jitsu or attempted sport techniques against a guy holding a weapon. The guy leading the show this weekend will be a dude by the name of Cecil Burch who has a BB under megaton.

    I think I have posted this before but here a video that talks about BJJ in a Weapons based enivroment

    Spider, Shrimp, and Gat on Vimeo
     
  19. bnosam

    bnosam Green Belt

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    That video is really interesting, thank you for posting it.
     
  20. Gabicho

    Gabicho Brown Belt

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    I think the most important aspect of unarmed vs armed fighting is also one of the most neglected ones: Principles.
    Most people teach a shitload of techniques against gun/knife/club/etc AND they don't teach any of the basic principles that apply to that type of combat.
    It's like trying to teach locks, throws or chokes to people who haven't even been taught the concepts of weight distribution, positioning, balance, mobility or leverage.

    If something will save your life, it's not X or Y set of techniques, but learning the very basics of armed combat like the vulnerability of stationary targets, the weaknesses/strengths of certain weapons, positioning to help protect vital organs, first aid, escape and confrontation tactics, etc.
    If you stick to these principles, then you can start working on techniques. If you try techniques without understanding of principles, you will most likely get killed.

    I'm also of the opinion that you can't really teach effective knife/gun defense to someone who doesn't know how to handle a knife/gun. Just like you can't teach takedown defense if you've never trained how to do a takedown.

    And sadly, i know now books/dvd's that teach this :(
     

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