Best exercise to lose weight if you can’t run?

Diet is everything and if you don't give a shit about training you can really drop weight by eating sub 2000 calories a day. That said, when i did this my training went to shit and for me that was unacceptable so I had to bump the calories a bit and just work out harder.
 
If someone temporarily can’t run what is an exercise that can match the intensity of running? I’ve tried being on the stationary bike but it just isn’t the same, I still get a better workout in a few minutes of running than I get in 20+ minutes of cycling.
swimming is good doesn't put any strain on your joints as well
 
Why can't you run?

Bodybuilders typically walk at an incline when they're cutting. Skipping rope is also another excellent calorie burner.

Running is overrated, unless your end-goal is to beat up your knees, shins, feet, and hips.
 
I’m a fan of kettlebell work for fat loss. I can’t say it’s as good as running, but it’s very efficient in n terms of calorie burn, space usage, and overall body conditioning.

Agreed. There are a lot of different KB programs out there, including Simple and Sinister and THE GIANT. The latter has a version specifically designed to help burn fat.

I've kept the Kettlebells I bought when the gyms closed last year. The politicians are already talking about the possibility of another lockdown, so at least I'll be able to keep doing some form of strength training should the worst happen.

Alternatively, I could throw the KB's at the politician's heads when they hold the press conference to announce the new lockdown. Which is tempting...;)
 
Truth is cardio actually gives you a lot more leeway with your dietary choices

The truth is this is actually not true.

Of course it is. To lose weight you need to be in a caloric deficit. When you do cardio your caloric expenditure increases by the amount of cardio you did. You can hence eat more than someone who doesn't do cardio. it's like lose weight 101.

and don't make me say that diet isn't the most important thing for weight loss because i never said that lol damn right it is

This is an interesting way to frame the issue and I agree with all three statements. But we should clarify that most people don't want to "lose weight," they want to "lose fat." Merely wanting to "lose weight" is the wrong approach for out-of-shape casuals and too often entails some unsustainable starvation diet causing them to lose both fat and muscle, lower their metabolism and generally look and feel like shit before giving up and ballooning back up and then some.

Re. cardio giving you leeway in diet, I think this effect increases with muscle mass. Muscle burns calories even at rest and after a hard cardio or grappling workout, my HR remains elevated 10-20 bpm for hours afterwards.

But I'd argue that "cardio giving you leeway in diet" is a misnomer. The more correct statement would be, assuming you're starting from a reasonably healthy diet for a sedentary lifestyle at a healthy bodyweight, you have more leeway in choosing the incremental calories that will allow a higher work load and build and maintain greater muscle mass. i.e. you NEED the extra calories to do the workouts.

Most people are comfort eaters who start from an unhealthy caloric surplus, then add some kind of workout and use that to rationalize... more chocolate cake, which never works long term. Mastering the habit of eating only until you feel satiated (less when you're less active, more when you are) is the only way I've found to maintain healthy weight and bf % over the long run.
 
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If someone temporarily can’t run what is an exercise that can match the intensity of running? I’ve tried being on the stationary bike but it just isn’t the same, I still get a better workout in a few minutes of running than I get in 20+ minutes of cycling.
Sex
 

As a guy who used to be obsessed with data and optimizing workouts with a HR chest strap, I did not find this to be true. Could be possible if you have pornstar cardio and are into some freaky shit, but "standard" sex is not a viable substitute for aerobic training.

For context I can spike my HR to 198-200 bpm during a run and maintain ~175 bpm (my anaerobic threshold) at will. On a bicycle I have trouble maintaining above ~150 bpm and have never achieved >180 bpm even sprinting to failure. Highest HR swimming is 153 bpm and that's uncomfortable and unsustainable. 5 RM deadlift I have a brief spike to 165 bpm but obviously much lower between sets. Max HR during 15 min of sex was 132 bpm with average HR barely above 100. I remember being pissed that I skipped cardio day for this. Yes I had relationship issues.
 
As a guy who used to be obsessed with data and optimizing workouts with a HR chest strap, I did not find this to be true. Could be possible if you have pornstar cardio and are into some freaky shit, but "standard" sex is not a viable substitute for aerobic training.

For context I can spike my HR to 198-200 bpm during a run and maintain ~175 bpm (my anaerobic threshold) at will. On a bicycle I have trouble maintaining above ~150 bpm and have never achieved >180 bpm even sprinting to failure. Highest HR swimming is 153 bpm and that's uncomfortable and unsustainable. 5 RM deadlift I have a brief spike to 165 bpm but obviously much lower between sets. Max HR during 15 min of sex was 132 bpm with average HR barely above 100. I remember being pissed that I skipped cardio day for this. Yes I had relationship issues.
Sounds like you were not going hard enough.
 
As many others have said, if it's losing weight you're after, cutting calories is the way to go. It doesn't matter how hard you are running if you end up eating so much you are still in a caloric surplus. I did a half marathon earlier in the year and was so hungry from all the running training ontop of weights, judo etc that I ended up having to eat more than usual, the result was I didn't lose much, if any weight!

Personally, I find nice regular long walks,in addition to my other activities, is enough to drop a bit of weight without being so intense that my recovery is affected and my appetite increases.
 
I’m a fan of kettlebell work for fat loss. I can’t say it’s as good as running, but it’s very efficient in n terms of calorie burn, space usage, and overall body conditioning.
I’ve been trying 30s on 30s rest. I start with a heavier kb for me and work my way down. I usually settle on 20 reps in 30s, but some days it’s 18. I think I will try and keep going to see how long I can go and just lower the reps and increase the rest as I tire. I can’t really speak in terms of results. But it’s improves your kb swing proficiency.
 
I’ve been trying 30s on 30s rest. I start with a heavier kb for me and work my way down. I usually settle on 20 reps in 30s, but some days it’s 18. I think I will try and keep going to see how long I can go and just lower the reps and increase the rest as I tire. I can’t really speak in terms of results. But it’s improves your kb swing proficiency.

The weight selection is a tricky balance. I’m currently about 6 weeks into a several month cut. I use about 4 different KB workouts geared towards calorie burn and I let my heart rate dictate sets and rest periods. I keep my workout pretty high at about 80% max heart rate which is very easy with KB IMO.

One workout is heavier with fewer sets. I burn fewer calories but I feel the pump big time in my back and legs. Another is a longer 40 minute session that by the time I’m done my HR is ramped for like a half hour after.

In general I find it to be effective in shedding lbs while engaging the full body. I throw in some push-ups and light rowing to round out the upper body maintenance.

Once I move back into a gaining phase I’d like to incorporate them in there as well but have yet to ever do so.
 
The weight selection is a tricky balance. I’m currently about 6 weeks into a several month cut. I use about 4 different KB workouts geared towards calorie burn and I let my heart rate dictate sets and rest periods. I keep my workout pretty high at about 80% max heart rate which is very easy with KB IMO.

One workout is heavier with fewer sets. I burn fewer calories but I feel the pump big time in my back and legs. Another is a longer 40 minute session that by the time I’m done my HR is ramped for like a half hour after.

In general I find it to be effective in shedding lbs while engaging the full body. I throw in some push-ups and light rowing to round out the upper body maintenance.

Once I move back into a gaining phase I’d like to incorporate them in there as well but have yet to ever do so.
Yeah. I’m just looking at my target heart rate and it seems for my age, I’m working at over 90%, if that is right. No wonder going past 15 minutes is tough. If I drop that to around 80%, I will be able to extend my workout time for a bit.
 
Doing 10k swings in 10 days. Knocked out 1k swings today with the 50lbs bell, think it was a bit easy. Every set of 50 was unbroken. Will probably throw in the 72lbs and even the 106lbs at some point.
 
As many others have said, if it's losing weight you're after, cutting calories is the way to go. It doesn't matter how hard you are running if you end up eating so much you are still in a caloric surplus. I did a half marathon earlier in the year and was so hungry from all the running training ontop of weights, judo etc that I ended up having to eat more than usual, the result was I didn't lose much, if any weight!

Personally, I find nice regular long walks,in addition to my other activities, is enough to drop a bit of weight without being so intense that my recovery is affected and my appetite increases.

Agree long walks are great for burning fat without stressing recovery, especially as you get older. But I still think "doing cardio to lose weight" is a misnomer. Far more important and what most folks are after is improved body composition i.e. fat loss. Before I started doing regular squats and DL at age 40, my normal routine was bro splits for upper body and running for lower body. When I upped my running volume I would actually gain a few pounds because I would put on a few pounds of muscle on my legs. But it would incrementally lower my bf % unless I was in season for wrestling or Judo (in which case I was already getting tons of cardio from those practices).

I think most people have a genetic floor for sustained bf % and getting below that via increased cardio or reduced calories will catabolize muscle mass. But if you're above that floor, losing fat is straight forward via caloric deficit in conjunction with strength training.


Yeah. I’m just looking at my target heart rate and it seems for my age, I’m working at over 90%, if that is right. No wonder going past 15 minutes is tough. If I drop that to around 80%, I will be able to extend my workout time for a bit.

Target HR as a % of max HR varies by individual, and the outdated formula of MHR = 220 minus your age was debunked due to being based on a very small sample size of sedentary people. Best way is to determine your actual max HR and anaerobic threshold with a chest strap (more accurate than wrist). Using myself as an example, in the mid 90's when I was 21, I could achieve a true MHR of 201 bpm sprinting it out at the end of a hard 5K. 26 years later, my MHR achieved during a run last week was 198 bpm. I've also found my anaerobic threshold (highest sustainable HR during a hard run) has remained 175-180 bpm since the 90's. Although my work output and running pace at any given HR has gone down over the years, my actual MHR and target zones have remained about the same.
 
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Doing 10k swings in 10 days. Knocked out 1k swings today with the 50lbs bell, think it was a bit easy. Every set of 50 was unbroken. Will probably throw in the 72lbs and even the 106lbs at some point.
Damn. How long of a rest between each 50 rep set??? Typically.
 
Agree long walks are great for burning fat without stressing recovery, especially as you get older. But I still think "doing cardio to lose weight" is a misnomer. Far more important and what most folks are after is improved body composition i.e. fat loss. Before I started doing regular squats and DL at age 40, my normal routine was bro splits for upper body and running for lower body. When I upped my running volume I would actually gain a few pounds because I would put on a few pounds of muscle on my legs. But it would incrementally lower my bf % unless I was in season for wrestling or Judo (in which case I was already getting tons of cardio from those practices).

I think most people have a genetic floor for sustained bf % and getting below that via increased cardio or reduced calories will catabolize muscle mass. But if you're above that floor, losing fat is straight forward via caloric deficit in conjunction with strength training.




Target HR as a % of max HR varies by individual, and the outdated formula of MHR = 220 minus your age was debunked due to being based on a very small sample size of sedentary people. Best way is to determine your actual max HR and anaerobic threshold with a chest strap (more accurate than wrist). Using myself as an example, in the mid 90's when I was 21, I could achieve a true MHR of 201 bpm sprinting it out at the end of a hard 5K. 26 years later, my MHR achieved during a run last week was 198 bpm. I've also found my anaerobic threshold (highest sustainable HR during a hard run) has remained 175-180 bpm since the 90's. Although my work output and running pace at any given HR has gone down over the years, my actual MHR and target zones have remained about the same.
That is good to know. Thanks for this. I will have to dig deeper on this.
 
Damn. How long of a rest between each 50 rep set??? Typically.
Oh they're not all 50 reps.
The reps are done as cluster sets as follows:
10
15
25
50
So that's 100 reps and then you do 5 clusters for your 500 swings. I'd rest 20 seconds between the small sets and like 2 minutes after the 50.
 
Oh they're not all 50 reps.
The reps are done as cluster sets as follows:
10
15
25
50
So that's 100 reps and then you do 5 clusters for your 500 swings. I'd rest 20 seconds between the small sets and like 2 minutes after the 50.
That’s still a haul. Worth a try.
 
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