Bernie Sanders Draws The Largest Crowd This Year 28,000

[BVG]

Bernie Sanders is a socialist plain and simple. Everything he supports would raise costs, reduce job growth and make people more dependent on government to survive. The government is a leech sucking on the productivity of the people. The American economy still sucks, with most jobs being low quality, and/or part time.

Liberal progressive promise is a lie. Plain and simple. I'm not a trump supporter, but do support fiscal conservatism.

Although in America, the distinction between democrat and socialist is pretty narrow. Bernie Sanders and hillary clinton, would both continue to deficit spend and make America even worse than it is now.

There are core reasons jobs and money has left America. Neither Clinton nor Sanders would work to solve them.

They simply want to re-distribute wealth. I'm sorry, but the truth, taxing the rich more does absolutely nothing for the middle class, or lower class incomes. This clearly doesn't work.

Progressive liberal policies are crushing small business in America (thanks obama). Small business is the key to sustained economic growth and having a decent future in America.

I'm sorry but progressive policies, particularly economic ones, simply don't work.

Democrats keep people people. Period.

Large business is crushing small business in America.

Free trade between countries like China is crushing America.

The ability to make a car for the cheap in Mexico and then sell it without any tax or tariff in the US is killing America.

You could pass a bill to tax the corporations but they would just find a way to either make a shady deal or use some loop hole to avoid paying much in taxes.

 

[INeedARemedy]

Big Dick Bernie's got people itt shook

 

[Adamant]

No one should even engage Adamant. I'm fully convinced he's a troll at this point: there's no way someone is as dumb as he professes to be.

speakhandsforme is just upset that he constantly gets spanked. He's prone to vengeful outbursts. :icon_lol:

 

[klnOmega]

He's the liberal Ron Paul. No matter how many people want to see him win, the establishment will always bury him.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Bernie Sanders is a socialist plain and simple. Everything he supports would raise costs, reduce job growth and make people more dependent on government to survive. The government is a leech sucking on the productivity of the people. The American economy still sucks, with most jobs being low quality, and/or part time.

Liberal progressive promise is a lie. Plain and simple. I'm not a trump supporter, but do support fiscal conservatism.

Although in America, the distinction between democrat and socialist is pretty narrow. Bernie Sanders and hillary clinton, would both continue to deficit spend and make America even worse than it is now.

There are core reasons jobs and money has left America. Neither Clinton nor Sanders would work to solve them.

They simply want to re-distribute wealth. I'm sorry, but the truth, taxing the rich more does absolutely nothing for the middle class, or lower class incomes. This clearly doesn't work.

Progressive liberal policies are crushing small business in America (thanks obama). Small business is the key to sustained economic growth and having a decent future in America.

I'm sorry but progressive policies, particularly economic ones, simply don't work.

Democrats keep people people. Period.

History proves this post to be utter dog shit.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

You mean the guy who thinks cervical cancer is from a lack of female orgasims? But I do love the fact that he doesn't believe in racism, is anti-immigrant, and pro-gun... pretty good for a lib. He has done jack shit but run his mouth since he has been in the senate though. He has made a career of saying ridiculous crap.

I have a Bernie Sanders drinking game:

When he says "Poor and working families" 1 drink

When he says "Republicans" with contempt, 2 drinks.

When he advocates for higher taxes, finish your drink.

I understand that the likelihood of you dying from alcohol poisoning/drowning is a real risk.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

I honestly believe that even the most well intention-ed candidate goes into the presidency with hopeful wishes, and then after elected...theirs a private meeting we all never hear or read about where the real powers that be tell the newly elected president...

"This is how it really is..."

And basically fucks or shits on any well intention ed promise that the new president may have had for change.

The United States is now run by the corporations. No one president can ever or will ever change corporate policies that are in place to benefit corporations. So you could elect Obama, Sanders, Trump...you...me...heck you could elect Jesus Christ. Won't matter.

Nah. There are no well-intentioned presidents. Every single one (yes, even Obama) was heavily backed by Wall Street. Naturally, they return their funders' favors once they get to the presidency.

This is what makes Sanders so different. He's not receiving any funding from Wall Street (yet, keep your fingers crossed) and little to none from any corporation, period.

Even if he wins, however, it won't be immediate paradise. He'd be president, not Supreme Leader so he has to work under a system. The system is still corporate-run so he'd be pretty limited in a lot of what he does.

 

[ultramanhyata]

Democrats keep people people. Period.

Agreed. I wish they made people robots instead. But dems are too lame.

 

[lapollarecords]

I have a Bernie Sanders drinking game:

When he says "Poor and working families" 1 drink

When he says "Republicans" with contempt, 2 drinks.

When he advocates for higher taxes, finish your drink.

I understand that the likelihood of you dying from alcohol poisoning/drowning is a real risk.

unless you are a corporate owner, get used to the "poor and working" because if you aren't one already, your sons will be. american workers are not as profitable for corporations as slave factory workers in third world countries and educated human drones in Asia.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

I have a Bernie Sanders drinking game:

When he says "Poor and working families" 1 drink

When he says "Republicans" with contempt, 2 drinks.

When he advocates for higher taxes, finish your drink.

I understand that the likelihood of you dying from alcohol poisoning/drowning is a real risk.

Or how about u play a drinking game that everytime someone says "I'm a regan era republican" you drink.


You'd be dead after 1 round of questions.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Nah. There are no well-intentioned presidents. Every single one (yes, even Obama) was heavily backed by Wall Street. Naturally, they return their funders' favors once they get to the presidency.

In 2012, Wall Street donors gave Obama $4M and Romney $16M. Increased financial regulations were a big part of it.

 

[weich]

He's the liberal Ron Paul. No matter how many people want to see him win, the establishment will always bury him.

I think he has considerable more momentum than Paul, although I agree he is an outside shot.

For comparison, I found this article from 2012:

Republican presidential contender Ron Paul may be trailing the rest of the GOP pack in the primaries, but he also seems to be the only candidate who is able to bring in huge crowds to his speeches.

Is Paul's popularity on the rise?

Speaking in California Wednesday night to an overflow crowd at a tennis center at UCLA, Paul drew what might have been his biggest audience yet. Estimates put the crowd total at between 6,000 to 10,000 people, filling into the 5,800-seat stadium, with others climbing nearby trees to see the speech.

Source

If these figures are accurate, Paul raised roughly 40 million dollars for his 2012 run:

Ron Paul

 

[kpt018]

He's a man of the people. He's not preaching "hope and change" - he's being specific about what he wants to do. Either that's because we were fooled before by Obama, or because he genuinely wants to do these things.

We'll see what he does after he wins.

I'm confused. Obama promised healthcare reform and made it happen and it's an enormous success (despite Republican's political and philosophical objections).

Did you have specific examples?

To the OP, a lot of his ideas are good, he has a ton of passion and people believe what he says. It's easy to rally behind a guy like that. On the other side you have Trump who is also passionate and blunt, so you see a lot of support for him as well (too bad his ideas suck and he's a shithead). It looks like people are gravitating towards a different kind of politician, although neither of these two will get the nomination.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

unless you are a corporate owner, get used to the "poor and working" because if you aren't one already, your sons will be. american workers are not as profitable for corporations as slave factory workers in third world countries and educated human drones in Asia.

You do realize that many companies turn bigger profits from US factories than their over-seas operations?

 

[PainIsLIfe]

I'm confused. Obama promised healthcare reform and made it happen and it's an enormous success (despite Republican's political and philosophical objections).

Did you have specific examples?

To the OP, a lot of his ideas are good, he has a ton of passion and people believe what he says. It's easy to rally behind a guy like that. On the other side you have Trump who is also passionate and blunt, so you see a lot of support for him as well (too bad his ideas suck and he's a shithead). It looks like people are gravitating towards a different kind of politician, although neither of these two will get the nomination.

Do you really find Trump passionate? Personally I just find him to be an obnoxious loud mouth and the only idea I've heard is to have Mexico to pay for a wall.

Saying we'd renegotiate treaties and send the best negotiators isn't really an idea as much as it is a talking point. Ross Periot at least would say that he'd get all the best minds in a room and make them come up with solutions - Trump isn't even that vague.

 

[kpt018]

Do you really find Trump passionate? Personally I just find him to be an obnoxious loud mouth and the only idea I've heard is to have Mexico to pay for a wall.

Saying we'd renegotiate treaties and send the best negotiators isn't really an idea as much as it is a talking point. Ross Periot at least would say that he'd get all the best minds in a room and make them come up with solutions - Trump isn't even that vague.

Please don't get me wrong, I think he is a racist, sexist shit head elitist. But I do think he has a lot of fire and is not afraid to say what he thinks (to his detriment and benefit). I think that gets the people who agree with him fired up and the polls are showing it.

Maybe I am mistaking his bluntness for passion!

 

[Possum Jenkins]

In 2012, Wall Street donors gave Obama $4M and Romney $16M. Increased financial regulations were a big part of it.

Well, in 2008 they certainly liked him better than McCain:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katehicks/2011/10/12/by_the_numbers_who_did_wall_street_buy_in_2008

At the very least they were comparable.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Well, in 2008 they certainly liked him better than McCain:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katehicks/2011/10/12/by_the_numbers_who_did_wall_street_buy_in_2008

At the very least they were comparable.

That is true, and they didn't get what they wanted and flipped hard in the next election.

 

[surgeyou1]

Bernie Sanders is a socialist plain and simple. Everything he supports would raise costs, reduce job growth and make people more dependent on government to survive. The government is a leech sucking on the productivity of the people. The American economy still sucks, with most jobs being low quality, and/or part time.

Liberal progressive promise is a lie. Plain and simple. I'm not a trump supporter, but do support fiscal conservatism.

Although in America, the distinction between democrat and socialist is pretty narrow. Bernie Sanders and hillary clinton, would both continue to deficit spend and make America even worse than it is now.

There are core reasons jobs and money has left America. Neither Clinton nor Sanders would work to solve them.

They simply want to re-distribute wealth. I'm sorry, but the truth, taxing the rich more does absolutely nothing for the middle class, or lower class incomes. This clearly doesn't work.

Progressive liberal policies are crushing small business in America (thanks obama). Small business is the key to sustained economic growth and having a decent future in America.

I'm sorry but progressive policies, particularly economic ones, simply don't work.

Democrats keep people people. Period.

#ShertardEconomics

 

[nixkid]

He's a man of the people. He's not preaching "hope and change" - he's being specific about what he wants to do. Either that's because we were fooled before by Obama, or because he genuinely wants to do these things.

We'll see what he does after he wins.

Obama really wanted to change things too (and was specific about changes he wanted to make). Campaigning for President and governing are two very different things. You elect a President not a dictator. Do you want to guess the odds of a hypothetical Sanders administration getting his socialist agenda through Congress? 0% if its still run by Republicans. Maybe 10% chance if by some miracle Democrats take back control of the House and have a super majority in Senate and he waters everything down to socialist-lite.

Obama had the House and 59 Senators in the Democratic caucus and he just barely got the ACA through. A healthcare bill that wasn't single payer and didn't have a public option barely passed Congress with the White House and Congress under Democratic control.