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Bernie Sanders Destroys Henry Kissinger During Debate With Hillary

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  1. VivaRevolution Banned Banned

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    I believe in her book she actually says that Kissinger has played a major role in her foreign policy education.....which is scary to me.
     
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    From the last debate
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/u...-the-democratic-presidential-debate.html?_r=0

    Sanders on debate prep in October:

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/070a...c4/sanders-debate-mantra-let-bernie-be-bernie
    He's naturally good at message discipline, but that's most of what he's historically had. His greater flexibility and familiarity with other issues is coming from debate prep. Contrary to popular belief, debate prep does not make you less flexible or rote. Poor prep can make you sound rehearsed if you just memorize talking points, though, especially if you're not that clever (Rubio).

    You said

    That means it wasn't a prepared line, but it was ad libbed.
     
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    AHHHH SHIT! BERNIE PUTTIN KISS ON BLAST!

    I love it.
     
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    He was very very influential in the Bush Dynasty and will be very influential if Hillary takes office.

    It's that whole Globalist World Order or the CFR ...
     
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    Yeah, but you said:

    Which implies that he ad libs the entire or most of the debate.

    Only Rubiobot prepares his entire debate. In my opinion, that particular quip was ad libbed, but overall he does prepare, like a serious candidate would.
     
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    He changed the approach to nuclear weapons a
    You're really comparing those two?
     
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    Going all in on conspiratard bingo, huh?
     
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    But it explains a lot about her foreign policy ideology. And a lot about that other so-called "liberal", Barack Obama, who appointed her Secretary of State.

    Here's a documentary worth the time of those who want to get educated on Henry Kissinger, war criminal. It's based on the book by Christopher Hitchens.

     
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    If you've listened to her approach on foreign policy, she definitely takes the "realpolitik", balance of powers perspective.
    Hilary's "realpolitik" solutions aren't Kissinger's though.
     
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    He's not biased at all lol.

    Perhaps Obama got in office and had a reality check on foreign relations.
     
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    When it comes to a nation having to potentially mete out death and destruction around the globe it's good to have someone at the helm who approaches all decisions from an amoral perspective.
     
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    Yeah, I think Obama is going for a balance of powers play in the ME right now. I want to criticize this, but I'm not sure what other options there are.

    What confuses me though, is Hillary's position on Iran are completely at odds with a balance of powers play here.
     
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    Well, let's not forget that Hitchens was, arguably, an apologist for the neocons and American imperialism, post 9/11.

    So, Christopher was not exactly a hippy putting daisies in rifle barrels.

    Which sort of brings his view of Kissinger's heinousness into even starker relief.
     
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    Anyone that wants to pretend Kissinger isn't a monster, probably needs to address the point Bernie made, which is that illegal, unconstitutional, Cambodian bombing led to the rise of Pol Pot, and the death of over 3 million Cambodian's.
     
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    Well because the alternative would have been rearming Saddam to be buffer state to Iran and supporting the government.


    Never said he was an isolationist
     
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    And the alternative was leaving troops in Vietnam (lol) and yielding world power to the Soviets. You act as if Kissinger just propped up Pol Pot.


    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/05/the-statesman/309283/

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/01/the-long-history-of-leading-from-behind/419097/
     
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    I'm sorry, are you arguing that our bombing of Cambodia, somehow prevented this?

    Perhaps my history is a little fuzzy, but I believe we did leave Vietnam, and that the Pentagon Papers show that we knew this was going to happen before we ever started the bombing of Cambodia.

    Also this in no way excuses the illegality of what was done.
     
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    I linked the articles for a reason
     
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    I read the first half of the first article and it read as a fluff piece to me.

    Perhaps you could pull out the pertinent info for me.
     

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