Bernie paying for all his stuff

I like how just because I don't tow a certain line politically there's just no way I can be a Christian. The funny thing is you didn't even give an answer to my statement because deep down you know your not following the path Christ would want.

Deep down my ass

Gimmick, I'm not religious for shit

Talk about shitty assumptions by a weird leftist gimmick
 
I'll just leave this here for the Bernie fans

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you fucking druggie hipster millennial losers
How much money do you make?

How much taxes do you pay?

I don't think you are very intelligent.
 
Only people that would vote for Sanders are failures. They can't succeed under the capitalist model because they are introverted man-children so they want socialism.

When most people see a successful man they dream of raising themselves up to that level. When a Bernie supporter sees a successful man they dream of dragging him down to theirs.
How much money do you make? Elaborate on your successful career and how much you contribute to society.
 
Deep down my ass

Gimmick, I'm not religious for shit

Talk about shitty assumptions by a weird leftist gimmick
Nice partisan labels u freak. How about just because I'm pro UHC doesn't mean I can't support traditional family values
 

I don't find myself restrained when I go to my family doctor for free. I will admit that while I was in public school...again, for free...I did feel restrained because I didn't want to be there.
 
Looking at the chart, I interpret my Federal tax burden to increase 2.2% under Sanders. However, if he can deliver this Utopia, the free healthcare and college for us and our planned children would be worth it. I know that's not going to ever happen though.

I'm not really a proponent of UHC, but when encountering a rabid UHC disagreer, I always ask them to try to explain that if UHC is the literal devil, how come so many countries with it have longer life expectancy than the US?
 
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/02/bernie-sanders-responsible-gerald-friedman

The second line of defense for Sanders' supporters is that no one has proven that Friedman is wrong. In fact, the critics are "the establishment of the establishment": just a bunch of Wall Street shills on Hillary's payroll who have it in for Bernie. I'm at a loss about how to respond to this. Obviously you can't prove that a forecast of the future is wrong. But you can say that Friedman is forecasting a sustained level of economic growth that's literally never happened before in history. Not here, not in Denmark, not anywhere. Mature economies simply don't grow 5 percent a year for a decade. Labor productivity doesn't double just because you create a bunch of social welfare programs. The number of people in the labor force doesn't skyrocket to new records even in the face of increasing rates of boomer retirement.

The discouraging thing here is that none of the critics are saying that Sanders' proposals are bad. You can support every single element of his plan with a clear conscience. This criticism is solely about forecasting how his plan will affect economic growth. And on that score, it's not even remotely realistic. It's about like saying his Medicare-for-all plan will increase life expectancy ten years. It's beyond belief. No matter who you support, you shouldn't do it based on fantasies like this.
 
Yeah, that's the same kind of thing we've seen here with the WR Berniebots. There's a refusal to acknowledge that legitimate disagreement is even possible.

I wonder if they would be as fanatical if Biden was running instead of Hillary. Is it Bernie love or Hillary hate?
 
Nice partisan labels u freak. How about just because I'm pro UHC doesn't mean I can't support traditional family values

Too bad you have too many gimmick posts for this to be believed
 
im not seeing much incentive for companies to stay in the US.

I think companies enjoy other western nations with state funded health care and educations systems because it ensures a healthier and more educated workforce. Also state funded programming in these areas lowers costs and debt loads on their workers, reducing stress and increasing the size of the middle class.

If you are worried all the companies will leave America because your country asks for the same rights as every other western nation, then they are in your country for the wrong reasons.
 
I think companies enjoy other western nations with state funded health care and educations systems because it ensures a healthier and more educated workforce. Also state funded programming in these areas lowers costs and debt loads on their workers, reducing stress and increasing the size of the middle class.

If you are worried all the companies will leave America because your country asks for the same rights as every other western nation, then they are in your country for the wrong reasons.

more questioning his views on foreign trade and taxation on companies that are higher than any of the Scandinavian, Canadian, ect, counties require.
 
I keep seeing people say that increased taxes will force jobs overseas. I see this as a possibility, so what kind of measures can be taken to ensure this doesn't happen?

Interestingly enough, after some research, I found the Forbes, "Best Countries For Business" list for 2015.

http://www.forbes.com/best-countries-for-business/list/

#1 Denmark
#3 Norway
#5 Sweden
#22 US

If higher taxes are supposed to chase away jobs, then why are these countries so heavily favored?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates

Just for reference. While I'm sure this doesn't tell close to the whole story and some economically minded person will likely come in and clear the air, but it *appears* that the U.S. taxes corporations significantly higher than Denmark/Sweden/Norway/Canada, while taxing its citizens far less than said countries. Again, I'm sure there is far more to this story as the realities of taxes and writeoffs and whatnot can be quite complex.

They keyword here is business regulation.
Taxes are not a very big concern for multi-national corporations. They pretty much de facto decide how much they want to pay. Some companies like Nestle and Shell pay zero in most countries that they operate.

However, business regulation is a big concern. And in scandinavia business regulation is relatively low (in terms of compliance with law). The primary role of government in Scandinavia (when it comes to business regulation), is mostly to act as a mediator between unions and employer organisations to decide on business regulation. This leads to a very flexible environment, where the labour and business standards are customized and negotiated for every separate industry.
Keep in mind that Scandinavia doesn't even operate with minimum wage laws. Yet McDonalds workers get like 20$ an hour. This is because of strong unions.
http://www.lo.dk/English version/About LO/History/TheSeptemberCompromise.aspx

Also concepts like "Flexicurity" plays a big role
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexicurity

The above mentioned is a key factor in the high labor standards, but low business regulation, which in most other countries correlate with each other. But this factor is rarely ever mentioned in the discussions about the nordic model for some reason.

no bozo, that's not what I suggested.

My point was that the rest of the developed world (outside of America) gets careless with social entitlements partly due to the US taking care of their defense needs.

This is not true at all. You can look at defense spending before and after NATO. It hasn't changed much.
Small european nations like my own don't really care about defense. We have accepted that if a larger military power wants to destroy us, then there is not really anything we can do about it.
Look at WW2 for example. No matter how much Denmark decides to spend on defense, we would never be able to defend ourselves from a german invasion (or Russian for that matter). If someone invades us, we simply wave the white flag and hope for the best.
In modern times we join defense alliances, and meet the required obligations that allows us to be members. But never has the motivation for implementing universal healthcare, or strong safety nets, been intertwined with discussions about military budgets.

It's also extremely naive to think that american military spending is done for charity reasons, so that those poor europeans can have their universal healthcare. The U.S got self interest as their primary motivations. Like any other country when it comes to defense.


So far you have demonstrated yourself to be economically and politically illiterate. So I guess it's only natural that you start resorting to posting edgy quotes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy
 
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