Discussion in 'The War Room' started by ehtheist, Feb 15, 2016.
What says Sherdog? Can you feel the Bern? What could possibly go wrong?
What do you think? Based on what I've read, he's not completely upfront about the costs/savings, but it's not a bad effort for a politician. Contrast it with what most of the candidates are offering (in terms of how they would pay for their giveaways), and you'll see that he is way ahead.
I'll just leave this here for the Bernie fans
you fucking druggie hipster millennial losers
Right now, I can't think of anything more ironic than a person quoting a man like Leo Tolstoy and then following up with the words in your post.
I enjoy people who act like Bernie is some kind of Zeitgeister, pushing for a RBE and planning to fill America's heartland with geodesic domes.
Please name one Sanders proposal that is not already a functioning, paid-for reality in some Western, industrialized, democratic nation. Because I'm honestly unfamiliar with it.
im not seeing much incentive for companies to stay in the US.
Those that want smaller government, less debt, and a balanced budget should take a good look at both sides and see who is actually willing and able to make the cuts and how big.
The right strives to cut "entitlements" things like SS, Medicare, Medicaid, Planned Parenthood, Food stamps, welfare, etc.
The left strives to reduce corporate welfare, defense spending, and close tax loopholes.
Which one of these two actually has a chance of making meaningful cuts?
We all know the right has NEVER had any luck cutting any of the "big" entitlements (SS, Medicare, Medicaid), and frankly all the other entitlements don't really add up to anything that would make a meaningful dent in the deficit.
The left, on the other hand, has a history of making steep cuts in the areas they go after. And unlike planned parenthood, the defense budget is enormous and reductions in that area can and will make a serious dent in our deficit.
So if you want a balanced budget the logical conclusion is that the left is more likely to get us there.
Seriously. It's like a bunch of people insisting that it's impossible to drive a car with a manual transmission.
"What about all those people driving stick shifts?"
"Wouldn't work here. My limbs work different."
The part where he is taxing offshore assets.
the biggest perk for any person under the age of 40 to vote for bernie is that universal health care and college tuition covered by the state obliterates debt from those two sources. and if you don't have thousands of people crippled by debt, then they have more bargaining power in terms of being a productive labor force.
a person that's $100k in debt is gonna take that $15/hour job and keep it b/c they have to. if everyone was free of college debt, suddenly their bargaining power shoots through the roof. and for any company that sits there obsessing over their profit line (omg we made $1.5 billion instead of 1.75 billion) then there's gonna be massive opposition and lobbying to ensure the status quo is maintained. people are simply making too much money off this system.
This seems to sum up the level of Bernie criticism. Op creates a thread listing very specific info, and response from Bernie haters, has the depth of a puddle.
Except that you could shitcan the DOD entirely and it wouldn't pay for any of this shit.
I want to cut corporate welfare, defense, and close tax loopholes, but here is the part I think many miss:
17% of GDP goes to health care spending. 3% goes to defense. If you cut defense in half, you have saved 1.5% of GDP, if you cut medical spending by 10%, you save 1.7% GDP.
Which one sounds more achievable?
This is where Bernie's 30 year history voting against every free trade bill he has ever seen comes into play.
bernie's has no chance.. it's hillary by superdelagates..
Only people that would vote for Sanders are failures. They can't succeed under the capitalist model because they are introverted man-children so they want socialism.
When most people see a successful man they dream of raising themselves up to that level. When a Bernie supporter sees a successful man they dream of dragging him down to theirs.
I'd vote for Bernie. Explain how your imbecilic drivel applies to me.
Because you are a failure.
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