Belt lineage question

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by Alfer23, Apr 8, 2008.

  1. Alfer23

    Alfer23 Yellow Belt

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    Hello,

    I can only afford to take lessons right now from studio A which is a legit school with a brown belt instructor who is not world class, but very talented.

    Let's say down the line I get my blue, and can finally afford studio B, which is a famous school with a world class instructor.

    At this point, would I wear a blue belt to the new school? What's the custom there?

    When I'm a purple belt, am I a legit instructor B purple, or is it misleading to say that? Would it be an insult to the original instructor?

    Does who taught you up to blue matter?

    I'm not belt obsessive, but if the time spent at studio A is going to cause headaches when i can afford to go to studio B, I rather just borrow some money out of my 401k and start the lessons at studio B.
     
  2. MonkeyNuts!

    MonkeyNuts! Rear Naked Poker

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    wait so youre just learning at A till you get enough money to go to B?

    If A and B are near each other, your instructor might feel a little miffed by that. I believe the word is creonte...

    Here.

    Let's say you get a blue from school A. You move far away because of your job. You find school B, you go in, and you should be able to wear your blue with no problem, most schools honor whatever rank you've gotten provided that your skills are reasonable and you've put in the time.
     
  3. Kimuralex

    Kimuralex Brown Belt

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    no offense, but thats what i hate about jiu jitsu and martial arts in particular in america(seems to be especially in america, not that its only in america,but mostly here)-Belts and money.

    Belts and money should not be on the top of your concerns my friend.
     
  4. armtriangle

    armtriangle Brown Belt

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    your rank goes with you when you change schools. the exception is if your skill is nowhere near your rank, you could get demoted. which would be humiliating, IMO.

    If you are purple belt, in my lineage, you cannot teach until you are given your instructor panel. even though we have several purples with instructon panels, none of them actually teach at our school.

    please dont borrow from your 401k to take bjj.

    i wouldnt go to school A, if you know you will switch when you can afford school B. Save you money and in 2 months, you can afford to take 1 months lessons at school B.

    Also it could take a few years to get that blue belt. so if you are planning that far ahead for 50 dollars per month (the assumed difference between school A and B) you should know not to borrow from your 401k.
     
  5. Jinzumkei

    Jinzumkei Rock El Columbian

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    You have waaaay bigger problems than what rank you are if you plan on borrowing from your 401k to take BJJ lessons.

    talk about messed up priorities.
     
  6. Holly

    Holly White Belt

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    That's kind of what I was thinking.

    Just take the lessons where you can afford them. If you're brand new, then you've got plenty to learn from either school.
     
  7. Alfer23

    Alfer23 Yellow Belt

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    It's not supposed to be an insult to my current instructor.. he runs his school more like a MMA gym, and traditional BJJ with a GI is sometimes neglected to work on things that I am not as interested in.

    The more expensive instructor learned from Helio and his sons. I think having a more traditional experience of learning BJJ and hearing the stories is worth it. All those first generation guys aren't going to be teaching forever, you know?

    My major question is if it'd be awkward going from one school to another. Thanks for the helpful responses, I appreciate them.

    And as far as borrowing a few grand out of my 401k to allow better instruction.. having a hobby that keeps me fit and active while young could mean more years to my life. I've seen people lose interest when they compromise, and I don't want that to happen to me.
     
  8. mikey5time

    mikey5time Yellow Belt

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    I train in a dingy gym, bad lighting, drunken instructors and glass everywhere because it`s cheap.

    JUST TRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ...

    Okay, we actually have a really nice clean gym, with professional instructors.

    :)
     
  9. green_machine

    green_machine Orange Belt

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    Lol, I was about to go WTF
     
  10. codemonkey76

    codemonkey76 Black Belt

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    if you live longer, you are gonna need more money in your 401K to support you no???
     
  11. TalkShowOnMute

    TalkShowOnMute dancingonthecorpsesashes

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  12. SH5

    SH5 Orange Belt

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    Have some loyalty bro ..

    And borrowing from 401 K is teh dumbest thing I ever heard .. paying penalty and huge tax ding if you fail to pay it back ...

    I started in a ****l storage building with no air in the Mississippi summer 100+ degrees and 90%+ humidity ...with a blue belt instructor .would have stayed loyal to him when the new guy moved here had he not taken over by request
     
  13. Slithers

    Slithers Green Belt

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    LOL. simulating real-life situations for street fights? Nice! You have to throw in some disease-infected needles, rocks, barb wire, etc. to get the full effect, though.

    TS, you may have some issues. You may not. I guess you will find out eventually.
     
  14. gracie_barra**

    gracie_barra** Purple Belt

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    goddamn, i remember a simpler time when i started grappling when all we cared about was close guard/open guard, passing and submitting people on some shitty jigzaw mats in some hot dungeon with no AC. nowadays you got people borrowing from 401ks, sneaking out of work to train, trying to learn rubber/plastic/ all sorts of random alphabetical, alphanumeric guards or guards named after every single fucking creature in the animal kingdom. ppl worrying about their belts and becoming the next ultimate fighting champion''. taping their backyard matches and putting them up on youtube...alas. whatever happened to just going to some gym with a legit instructor and training your ass off.
     

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