1. The official Sherdog Store is back! Check it out! » Discuss it here! »

News Bellator signs Tofiq Musayev

Discussion in 'Worldwide MMA Discussion' started by Terry_Dak_Tull, Jan 10, 2022.

  1. SokoudjouFanboy 39 tried, just 19 succeeded

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2021
    Messages:
    1,756
    Likes Received:
    1,933
    Out of curiosity how would you rate the ONE LW guys? Presuming if they fought elsewhere they could make 55 proper.

    As many or as few as you'd like.
     
  2. tehMoose The slayer of ufc shills

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2017
    Messages:
    11,523
    Likes Received:
    6,521
    You have Hooker at #8, so you think he can beat everyone in Bellator?

    Moises, Dober, Hernandez, Ferreira shouldn't be in the top 25 man if you make a list with the best 25 fighters currently (I wouldn't list any fighter on 3 fight losing streak in my list)

    Moises #31, Hernandez #32, Kutateladze #35, Riddell #39, Dober #40 are at fightmatrix which is closer to the reality, you really ranked them way too high. Mustafaev is #91 at fightmatrix but made the top 25 on your list

    Tony is also done. He looked worse than Pettis recently
     
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2022
  3. David Street Use skills

    Joined:
    May 30, 2016
    Messages:
    820
    Likes Received:
    266
    Location:
    Barrow, Alaska if not there then Pattani, Thailand
    Great signing but stealing from Rizin not sure good idea for Bellator.
     
  4. KeeSmyth Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2012
    Messages:
    3,528
    Likes Received:
    151
    Location:
    Edmonton,Alberta
    What they going do, send the Yakuza?
     
    David Street likes this.
  5. SokoudjouFanboy 39 tried, just 19 succeeded

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2021
    Messages:
    1,756
    Likes Received:
    1,933
    No, but Rizin has a market in Japan and Bellator should want to stay in their good graces to continue to establish themselves there. Rizin benefits by having access to Bellator's large roster to try to give their domestic fighters interesting challenges and tests. Bellator has like 300 people on it's roster so it's really no skin off their back to send basically a giant portion of their talent pool over once the borders open up.

    I think signing Tofiq will be fine, but the relationship can and should be mutually beneficial.
     
  6. TorontoTO Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2021
    Messages:
    4,250
    Likes Received:
    4,314
    Tofiq said he hopes to fight in Japan soon so I think this was a deal to keep him with a potential to fight on a future Rizin card since borders are still closed so who knows when they will get him another bout.
     
    KeeSmyth and SokoudjouFanboy like this.
  7. Hellowhosthat If he dies he dies

    Joined:
    May 30, 2019
    Messages:
    34,802
    Likes Received:
    66,138
    I think Lee would be in the 30's somewhere with Ok not far behind. Dagi probably somewhere in the 60's and Eddie and Lapicus probably sneak on lower down too.
     
  8. Hellowhosthat If he dies he dies

    Joined:
    May 30, 2019
    Messages:
    34,802
    Likes Received:
    66,138
    Well it's based on who they've beaten really. I did pre-do the list and had it a bit different but then I tap checked myself and realised I had people who hadn't actually beaten anyone ranked far too high.

    I would bet Hooker against Patricky for sure.

    Tony I think is a long way from what he was but I'm taking into account that the people he's lost to I have ranked #1, #3 and #6 so he's been mixing it with elite comp. Most people would be 0-3 against those guys.

    EDIT - I'm using this one as a betting aid which might give more of an accurate idea of where I think people are right now, but I only recently started doing it so there's not many people on there yet.

    My Hellowhosthat Lightweight rankings | Hellowhosthat's MMA Rankings | Tapology


    Ignore the notes, it's mostly gibberish that only I'd understand that I use for betting.
     
  9. Doctor Grudge Green Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2007
    Messages:
    1,452
    Likes Received:
    393
    They have a talent exchange, if Rizin cared enough they could probably have Toqif fight there.
     
  10. Hellowhosthat If he dies he dies

    Joined:
    May 30, 2019
    Messages:
    34,802
    Likes Received:
    66,138
    They couldn't get any foreigners into Japan. I think they might just have let him go to Bellator as it doesn't look like that's going to change anytime soon.
     
    David Street likes this.
  11. Doctor Grudge Green Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2007
    Messages:
    1,452
    Likes Received:
    393
    Yeah, makes sense. No reason to keep him tied up.
     
  12. pankrat Red Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2016
    Messages:
    9,068
    Likes Received:
    3,829
    No love for Aoki it seems.
    Maybe Im just a fan of him but I think even at this stage, he is a serious threat and was actually kicking Lee's ass in their fight, which is his only non-avenged loss at LW since Eddie back in 2012. The Nakashima win was impressive. Certainly top100 worthy imo.
     
  13. Hellowhosthat If he dies he dies

    Joined:
    May 30, 2019
    Messages:
    34,802
    Likes Received:
    66,138
    Probably right actually forgot about him tbh. That's the annoying thing about ONE everybody is in the wrong weight division on rankings sites.
     
    pankrat likes this.
  14. careto Black Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2006
    Messages:
    7,123
    Likes Received:
    3,791
    Hooker peaked in that 2-fight stretch against Felder and Poirier and has looked absolutely average ever since. Guys like Primus, Outlaw, Mamedov, and even Bak would be very bad match ups for him. There are many fighters in the UFC top 25 that are very deceiving because they are "bangers" but have, either subpar or questionable ground games. I'm talking about guys like Moises, Hernandez, Riddell, Dober, Haqparast, Alvarez, shit even Conor.
     
  15. skylolow Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2006
    Messages:
    13,916
    Likes Received:
    820
    Interesting, wonder why Rizin didn't want to keep him around.

    Good pick up for Bellator
     
  16. tehMoose The slayer of ufc shills

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2017
    Messages:
    11,523
    Likes Received:
    6,521
    I know, even Poirier looked like dogshit on the ground. Wouldn't be surprised at all if someone like Mamedov would lay on him for 3/5 rounds. They have a strong LW division but not as good as people say it is
     
  17. pankrat Red Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2016
    Messages:
    9,068
    Likes Received:
    3,829
    There are better LWs at doing what Mamedov does in UFC.
    No need to say that, in case Mamedov were in UFC, he would automatically be irrelevant to you
     
  18. SokoudjouFanboy 39 tried, just 19 succeeded

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2021
    Messages:
    1,756
    Likes Received:
    1,933
    While you're right about Mamedov being irrelevant to tehmoose if he was in the UFC and there being better top control guys in the UFC there are so few of them by design a lot of those guys Careto listed don't get tested against someone who wants to deploy that type of gameplan. The ones that are in UFC like Makhachev get avoided.
     
  19. pankrat Red Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2016
    Messages:
    9,068
    Likes Received:
    3,829
    It's pretty obvious UFC generally tends to favour standup fighting imo but, at the same time, it's also pretty obvious how much UFC is ahead of his competition in terms of hiring top talent.

    Apart from Islam, I do think you match up Dariush, Gamrot, Gillespie or Arman with the same guys Mamedov has been matched up and they can do what Mamedov did but with more sufficiency

    The guys careto listed, its more questionable, they haven not been tested as much but are they even ranked?
    Tehmoore went as far as saying Mamedov would have serious chances of grinding out Poirier and that's taking it way, way too far
     
    SokoudjouFanboy likes this.
  20. careto Black Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2006
    Messages:
    7,123
    Likes Received:
    3,791
    I agree, they are way ahead of the curve when it comes to signing established top talent.

    I would add Ferreira to that list of fighters.

    They arent ranked top 15 but are usually overhyped around these forums. They have very, very questionable ground games and most think they can go to Bellator, PFL, or ONE and become champions immediatley. However, there are very bad match ups for them outside the UFC, guys with grappling heavy styles. Primus, Outlaw, Mamedov, Shulte, etc.

    IMO, its a bit ridiculous to suggest that anyone in the UFC top 15 can go to any other promotion and become champions.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.