Belgium terrorist attacks thread, Part 2: Suicide bombers may also have targeted nuclear plants

[JDragon]

Part 1 here: http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/e...-and-subway-station-at-least-35-dead.3205399/

So Salah Abdeslam wants to be extradited to France and will not cooperate with authorities any more. I liked it better before his attorney got access to him.

Also, the two suicide bombers Ibrahim und Khalid El Bakraoui, according to daily "La Dernière Heure" have been identified as being those who took down a CCTV camera at the house of a Belgian nuclear scientist...

 

[WrestlinganJudo]

Part 1 here: http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/e...-and-subway-station-at-least-35-dead.3205399/

So Salah Abdeslam wants to be extradited to France and will not cooperate with authorities any more. I liked it better before his attorney got access to him.

Also, the two suicide bombers Ibrahim und Khalid El Bakraoui, according to daily "La Dernière Heure" have been identified as being those who took down a CCTV camera at the house of a Belgian nuclear scientist...

Whats the advantage for them to get it moved to France?

 

[JDragon]

Whats the advantage for them to get it moved to France?

Salah Abdeslam is one of the Paris attackers. He will get extradited because French authorities obviously want to prosecute him.

Abdeslam originally wanted to fight his extradition - why, I don't know.

Abdeslam is Belgian, his extradition should be legally possible due to EU law.

 

[WrestlinganJudo]

Salah Abdeslam is one of the Paris attackers. He will get extradited because French authorities obviously want to prosecute him.

Abdeslam originally wanted to fight his extradition - why, I don't know.

Abdeslam is Belgian, his extradition should be legally possible due to EU law.

Thanks.

 

[barehanded]

Turkey says Belgium ignored warning about jihadi bomber

Belgian officials ignored warnings last June that one of the brothers suspected of blowing himself up in Tuesday’s deadly Brussels attacks was a terrorist, Turkey's president said Wednesday.

Ibrahim El-Bakraoui, a petty criminal born and raised in Brussels and suspected of being the bomber who blew himself up at Zaventem Airport, killing at least 11, was nabbed crossing into Turkey from Syria nine months ago, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said. Turkish officials said they told their counterparts in Brussels of his likely involvement with ISIS, which has claimed credit for Tuesday’s attacks.

A Turkish official said Dutch authorities allowed Bakraoui to go free because Belgian authorities could not establish any ties to terrorism.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/03/23/turkey-says-belgium-ignored-warning-about-jihadi-bomber.html


Turkey Warned French Twice About Attacker, Official Says

http://www.nytimes.com/live/paris-a...ed-french-twice-about-attacker-official-says/

 

[Ruprecht]

Belgium security forces have been copping a lot of flack, but I'd like to think their nuclear facilities are adequately protected...?

 

[JDragon]

Belgium security forces have been copping a lot of flack, but I'd like to think their nuclear facilities are adequately protected...?

It depends on what 'adequately protected' means.

http://www.brusselstimes.com/belgiu...er-worker-at-doel-nuclear-plant-dies-in-syria

 

[WrestlinganJudo]

Belgium security forces have been copping a lot of flack, but I'd like to think their nuclear facilities are adequately protected...?

I hope they are.

 

[WrestlinganJudo]

It depends on what 'adequately protected' means.

http://www.brusselstimes.com/belgiu...er-worker-at-doel-nuclear-plant-dies-in-syria

Ouch.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Abdeslam claiming he didn't know about attack plans, smh

 

[JDragon]

Abdeslam claiming he didn't know about attack plans, smh

TBF it is well possible he did not know for sure when they would strike where.

 

[electricfuneral]

These guys were both born in Brussels yet all of this focus is on immigration and boarder control...

 

[clmetal]

Turkey says Belgium ignored warning about jihadi bomber

Belgian officials ignored warnings last June that one of the brothers suspected of blowing himself up in Tuesday’s deadly Brussels attacks was a terrorist, Turkey's president said Wednesday.

Ibrahim El-Bakraoui, a petty criminal born and raised in Brussels and suspected of being the bomber who blew himself up at Zaventem Airport, killing at least 11, was nabbed crossing into Turkey from Syria nine months ago, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said. Turkish officials said they told their counterparts in Brussels of his likely involvement with ISIS, which has claimed credit for Tuesday’s attacks.

A Turkish official said Dutch authorities allowed Bakraoui to go free because Belgian authorities could not establish any ties to terrorism.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/03/23/turkey-says-belgium-ignored-warning-about-jihadi-bomber.html


Turkey Warned French Twice About Attacker, Official Says

http://www.nytimes.com/live/paris-a...ed-french-twice-about-attacker-official-says/

Deported to Europe. Countries should be willing to take someone's citizenship away even if they were born in that country.

We are just as stupid, we take refugees from Somali who then return to Somalia. The Boston bombers were granted asylum and then parents moved back to Dagestan and the older son goes to that region (or nearby Chechnya)

 

[clmetal]

These guys were both born in Brussels yet all of this focus is on immigration and boarder control...

They are there from past immigration decisions; current immigration decisions impact who will make up the citizens of the future. They are then yours for good; you get their offspring and relatives through family reunification.

The article mentions the guy going to Syria, being from Belgium and being deported to the Netherlands by Turkey. So plenty of border components in this article as well.

 

[glennrod]

This has been my biggest fear for years now, that they manage to hit a nuclear power station. I saw on BBC news a while back, some experts talking about ways they could send a nuclear power station into meltdown. Trucks with explosive and even sniper rifles could do it...i was thinking to myself, "please stop talking, you may be giving them ideas"

 

[electricfuneral]

They are there from past immigration decisions; current immigration decisions impact who will make up the citizens of the future. They are then yours for good; you get their offspring and relatives through family reunification.

The article mentions the guy going to Syria, being from Belgium and being deported to the Netherlands by Turkey. So plenty of border components in this article as well.

Do you believe there is a way to tell if people will be radicalized later in life ? Are you supporting of a Muslim ban ?

I haven't seen a refugee commit a terror attack lately. They have been homegrown.

 

[barehanded]

These guys were both born in Brussels yet all of this focus is on immigration and boarder control...

Border control is very important, even Hillary Clinton realized this:

"The most urgent task is stopping the flow of foreign fighters to and from the Middle East" who are citizens of France, Germany, Belgium and the United Kingdom with European passports that make it easier for them to cross into Syria and return radicalized, Clinton said.

Clinton said that many European nations do not currently alert their neighbors when they turn away a "suspected jihadist" at their border or when a citizen's passport is stolen. European Union countries also need to share traveler information more readily, Clinton said.

Additional steps that could be taken in Europe are the creation of a "new, unified, European border and coast guard" to strengthen the external borders of a continent that is under "unprecedented pressure from refugees and migrants," Clinton said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-idUSKCN0WP2LI

 

[Ruprecht]

It depends on what 'adequately protected' means.

http://www.brusselstimes.com/belgiu...er-worker-at-doel-nuclear-plant-dies-in-syria

Internal threats are usually the biggest security risks. @oldshadow would probably have more idea about the standard measures of supervision and internal security for nuclear facilities.

 

[electricfuneral]

Border control is very important, even Hillary Clinton realized this:

"The most urgent task is stopping the flow of foreign fighters to and from the Middle East" who are citizens of France, Germany, Belgium and the United Kingdom with European passports that make it easier for them to cross into Syria and return radicalized, Clinton said.

Clinton said that many European nations do not currently alert their neighbors when they turn away a "suspected jihadist" at their border or when a citizen's passport is stolen. European Union countries also need to share traveler information more readily, Clinton said.

Additional steps that could be taken in Europe are the creation of a "new, unified, European border and coast guard" to strengthen the external borders of a continent that is under "unprecedented pressure from refugees and migrants," Clinton said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-idUSKCN0WP2LI

They already have millions of Muslims in Europe now. They are already there. Let's say all boarder issues are addressed. What is next ? They don't need to cross the boarser, they are already here.

 

[WrestlinganJudo]

Don't know how this will get solved and I have a bad feeling this is going to continue and get bigger and bigger.

Europe might have no choice someday but react in a manner they don't want to.