Social BDS/CDS mega thread

[Deorum]

In addition to Hunter/The Bidens, Pelosi, Feinstein, Swalwell, and the list goes on and on. Of course you have another top Dem showing their true, RED (tho not GOP) colors.

The most anti-CCP politician in American history?

 

[Oceanmachine]

Lol @ acting like this is nothing.

Not commenting on Biden returning (why do that?)

Plus it is a firm for Chinese surveillance firm, involved in internment of Muslim, why would it ever be ok to legally lobby for this firm? Just highlights hypocrites, and most importantly, the swamp nature of the system. Coupled with the recent right wing tech purge, the left pretty much has no problem with ethnic and/or cultural suppression, as long as it benefits their political views. Talk about facists.

I dont ger your writing style or understand you.

I think Biden is corrupt and Feinstein and Harry Reid and Barbara boxer are all pro china shills. I dont think Biden is tbh but his son is compromised. Its also possible the corona virus and bipartisan anti chinese sentiment largely will force Bidens hand to try and contain China.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

The most anti-CCP politician in American history?

She appointed Swalwell, despite being brief on the Fang Fang vampire. Give me a break

 

[Oceanmachine]

The most anti-CCP politician in American history?

She isnt that bad.

Not all Dems are the same.

Barbara is working for the chinese basically now and was always soft on China and or appeasing... Feinstein had a chinese spy working for her and other supicions... and Harry Reid also has sketchy China ties the same way Trump has Russian ties.

Why cant people be sane and admit some Repubs are into Russia but some Dems are into China?

 

[hillelslovak87]

@cottagecheesefan made an ass of itself with the election CTs FOR MONTHS, and now it is moving on to making an ass of itself on China.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

I dont ger your writing style or understand you.

I think Biden is corrupt and Feinstein and Harry Reid and Barbara boxer are all pro china shills. I dont think Biden is tbh but his son is compromised. Its also possible the corona virus and bipartisan anti chinese sentiment largely will force Bidens hand to try and contain China.

Ok, I agree with the Chinese Shill part and the Biden's being corrupt. Just based on you highlighting (legally), I thought you were implying the "nothing to see here" angle.

I do not think they will try and contain China tho, even if publicly seeming so. Back door (keep swapping, Biden reference) deals with occur, and business will go back to normal.

 

[TUFNewb]

Well it should be nice for America to have a president who doesn't have secret chinese bank accounts and isn't beholden to chinese bankers and actually pays taxes to American people and not to CCP. Also nice to have a guy who didn't beg Xi to help him win reelection.

 

[Oceanmachine]

Ok, I agree with the Chinese Shill part and the Biden's being corrupt. Just based on you highlighting (legally), I thought you were implying the "nothing to see here" angle.

I do not think they will try and contain China tho, even if publicly seeming so. Back door (keep swapping, Biden reference) deals with occur, and business will go back to normal.

Congress passed sanctions and Biden appointed a Taiwnese woman who seems to be abti China as his person to deal with China.

It can also be argued Obama admin was trying to encircle China via the TPP. However, I think maybe while true to some degree the Obama admin had too many people with a pro Chinese and or appeasment strategy. To me any strategy of "lets not rush things and lets be patient" only works to China's advantage

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Well it will be nice for America to have a president who doesn't have secret chinese bank accounts and isn't beholden to chinese bankers and actually pays taxes to American people and not to CCP. Also nice to have a guy who didn't beg Xi to help him win reelection.

but happy to have a career politician who somehow now is worth 15 million, and has a borther and son being investigated for laundering money through an organization in their own name? Got it!

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Congress passed sanctions and Biden appointed a Taiwnese woman who seems to be abti China as his person to deal with China.

It can also be argued Obama admin was trying to encircle China via the TPP. However, I think maybe while true to some degree the Obama admin had too many people with a pro Chinese and or appeasment strategy. To me any strategy of "lets not rush things and lets be patient" only works to China's advantage

I agree. You have Austalia, Japan, PI and other countries having disputes with China currently, most importantly (IMO) India, given both countries population and pollution. Given a few more years, the this could have turned the tides in trade, but it takes time. 2-4 years is not enough time to let changes reverbirate through the world economy.

Meanwhile, China is taking more lands in Africa, especially mining and precious resources, it has continued to expand their military might in the surrounding area, etc.

I actually did not think I was going to vote on November 3rd, until Biden was deemed the democrat candidate, and seeing his and his family history, seeing further Chinese involvement with other democrats, etc. And I only picked up on other democrat involvement, because of how much the tried to hide Biden's involvement. Now I am 100% on the MAGA/CDS train.

 

[Deorum]

Give me a break

I'm not going to crush you in your own thread. I'll make my own on Pelosi and the CCP because you dudes just simply won't quit with this absolute horseshit. You're partisan hacks masquerading as patriots and it's disgusting. It's either that or just 100% clueless. The fact that you mentioned her right next to Feinstein is doubly hilarious considering they've been at public odds over China for virtually their entire political careers. You mention Trump's policy toward China but are somehow ignorant Pelosi supported him on it? She merely wanted to form a united front with the EU and East Asian allies, not start simultaneous trade wars with them.

 

[TUFNewb]

but happy to have a career politician who somehow now is worth 15 million, and has a borther and son being investigated for laundering money through an organization in their own name? Got it!

Yep nice to have a potus who released all his tax returns to show how he made that money... Unlike other guy who said he would but that turned out to be another lie... and nice to have one whose child isn't an official government employee working for administration while somehow magically being granted chinese patents.

The swamp is a lot less murky with this guy.

 

[TUFNewb]

Will be nice for America to not have an incompetent potus that has bankrupted casinos negotiating a stupid trade war that accomplishes nothing and actually grows trade deficit and gives their enemy the latitude to handle more important domestic issues however they wish.

Maybe this guy will actually address humanitarian issues instead of just caring about getting little selfish "wins" and telling Xi that he was right to build detention camps to house hundreds of thousands of ethnic minorities.

 

[ultramanhyata]

Biden already picked his China Trade Rep and she's a China Hawk.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/10/biden-to-name-katherine-tai-us-trade-representative.html

President-elect Joe Biden on Thursday named Katherine Tai, a trade lawyer with a history of taking on China, as his incoming administration’s pick for the United States’ top trade representative.

If confirmed by the Senate, Tai would inherit a critical, Cabinet-level position tasked with enforcing America’s import rules and brokering trading terms with China and other nations.


Tai, who is Asian-American, would also be the first woman of color to serve as the USTR. She is fluent in Mandarin.

In choosing Tai, the senior trade lawyer on the House Ways and Means Committee, the Biden team likely signals an intent to return to a more multilateral trade approach to advance U.S. trade interests and confront growing economic competition from China.

The president-elect heralded Tai’s experience in a press release on Thursday as key to important insights while the incoming administration reviews the trade deal outgoing President Donald Trump brokered with Beijing.

“Her deep experience will allow the Biden-Harris administration to hit the ground running on trade, and harness the power of our trading relationships to help the U.S. dig out of the COVID-induced economic crisis and pursue the President-elect’s vision of a pro-American worker trade strategy,” the Biden transition team wrote.

Tai would succeed current trade czar Robert Lighthizer, whose achievements during the Trump administration include a more-forceful tact in negotiations with Beijing and the imposition of hundreds of billions of dollars worth of tariffs on goods imported from China.

Though Tai may favor multilateral enforcement mechanisms more than Lighthizer, her leadership as USTR wouldn’t necessarily signal a change to the tougher stance toward China. She has said that China should be addressed forcefully and strategically.

“They both also have a long history of dealing with China’s unfair practices, the most pressing trade issue of our time,” according to former top White House trade negotiator Clete Willems. “Where Katherine’s approach is most likely to differ is on how she uses the WTO system and alliances to pressure China to change behavior.”

From 2007 to 2014, Tai successfully litigated Washington’s disputes against Beijing at the WTO, the global trade organization based in Geneva, Switzerland.

Lighthizer and his team, frustrated with what they viewed as slow-moving bureaucracy and China’s influence at the WTO and World Bank, often opted to work around the WTO and take a more direct approach through tariffs. The U.S. still has import duties on $370 billion of Chinese imports.

“As the former head of USTR’s China trade enforcement, Katherine has experience bringing and winning joint WTO disputes against China while partnering with countries like the EU and Japan and is likely to pursue a similar approach,” Willems, now a partner at Akin Gump, added in an email.

Willems also noted that Tai’s fluency in Mandarin would command respect at the negotiating table with China.

In August, Tai called for a different approach to China from the years-long tariff war waged by Lighthizer and said the use of import taxes are actually a defensive maneuver.

Rep. Don Beyer, D-Va., said in a press release Wednesday evening that Tai would be a smart choice for USTR based on their time working together on the Ways and Means Committee.

“She is exactly the right kind of cooperative leader to help return rationality to our trade policy and restore the respect of our allies around the world,” Beyer said in the release.

The committee’s chairman, Massachusetts Democrat Richard Neal, offered similar sentiments in a release on Thursday.

“Her time with Ways and Means is filled with many accomplishments, but none greater than the key role she played behind the scenes in our successful work to improve the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement and secure widespread support for its passage,” Neal said.

“As the United States seeks to repair strained relationships with our partners around the world and address increasingly perilous challenges from China, Katherine will be an honorable and effective representative for this nation, our people, and our interests,” he added.

Those comments are likely to reassure to Biden, who has suggested he would favor a return to a more multilateral, ally-based approach and a move away from President Donald Trump’s nationalist, “America First” approach.

Still, Biden said in a recent New York Times interview that he won’t immediately remove the tariffs on China and will instead weigh a variety of tactics when considering how best to compete with Beijing.

“I’m not going to make any immediate moves, and the same applies to the tariffs. I’m not going to prejudice my options,” Biden told columnist Thomas Friedman in an interview earlier this month.

The president-elect has declined to say whether he would support joining specific trade agreements. One of President Donald Trump’s first acts in office was to remove the U.S. from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which was negotiated by the Obama administration with 11 other nations.

The TPP excluded China and was a cornerstone of Obama’s efforts to cement U.S. influence in Asia. China has since signed the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership with 14 other countries, a trade agreement that excludes the U.S. and covers about 30% of the world’s economy.

Biden has promised to be more detailed about which agreements he would support after his inauguration, but has repeatedly stressed the importance of working with allies to set global trade’s “rules of the road.”

This appointment directly refutes OP's narrative so will be disregarded by him. I have not scrolled past this post yet but am making this prediction now.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

This appointment directly refutes OP's narrative so will be disregarded by him. I have not scrolled past this post yet but am making this prediction now.

Believe it or not... You're giving the OP too much credit lol

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Great move Mr. President! Wonder which politicians will oppose this and/or have to shift their investments

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...ouse-representatives-president-senate-011321/

 

[Deorum]

Pelosi, Feinstein

Feinstein had a chinese spy working for her and other suspicions

Great move Mr. President! Wonder which politicians will oppose this and/or have to shift their investments

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...ouse-representatives-president-senate-011321/

I think this pretty much sums it up:

While fellow Bay Area resident Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein was hosting a 1997 Blair House reception for her "oldest friend in China" - President Jiang Zemin - Pelosi was across the street at a protest denouncing him as a despot. "What do they expect me to say?" Pelosi asked. "That it's not OK for a Republican president to coddle dictators, but it's OK for a Democrat?"

Oh, yeah.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Husband-invested-in-China-as-Feinstein-pushed-3051244.php

An investment fund backed by the husband of U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein pumped millions of dollars into firms doing business in China while Feinstein was boosting expanded trade between China and the United States, The Examiner has learned. Feinstein has denied that her husband, San Francisco financier Richard C. Blum, has investments in China.

Public records show a venture capital firm backed by Blum's investment bank owns millions of dollars worth of stock in corporations doing business in China. The firm is Newbridge Capital, a joint venture between Richard C. Blum & Associates and another firm called Texas Pacific Group. It maintains an office in Shanghai for an affiliate called Newbridge Asia, public records show.

And in the past two years, the firm has pumped more than $400 million in U.S. venture capital into East Asian businesses in hopes of profiting from the region's rebounding economy.

 

[chardog]

Biden already picked his China Trade Rep and she's a China Hawk.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/10/biden-to-name-katherine-tai-us-trade-representative.html

President-elect Joe Biden on Thursday named Katherine Tai, a trade lawyer with a history of taking on China, as his incoming administration’s pick for the United States’ top trade representative.

If confirmed by the Senate, Tai would inherit a critical, Cabinet-level position tasked with enforcing America’s import rules and brokering trading terms with China and other nations.


Tai, who is Asian-American, would also be the first woman of color to serve as the USTR. She is fluent in Mandarin.

In choosing Tai, the senior trade lawyer on the House Ways and Means Committee, the Biden team likely signals an intent to return to a more multilateral trade approach to advance U.S. trade interests and confront growing economic competition from China.

The president-elect heralded Tai’s experience in a press release on Thursday as key to important insights while the incoming administration reviews the trade deal outgoing President Donald Trump brokered with Beijing.

“Her deep experience will allow the Biden-Harris administration to hit the ground running on trade, and harness the power of our trading relationships to help the U.S. dig out of the COVID-induced economic crisis and pursue the President-elect’s vision of a pro-American worker trade strategy,” the Biden transition team wrote.

Tai would succeed current trade czar Robert Lighthizer, whose achievements during the Trump administration include a more-forceful tact in negotiations with Beijing and the imposition of hundreds of billions of dollars worth of tariffs on goods imported from China.

Though Tai may favor multilateral enforcement mechanisms more than Lighthizer, her leadership as USTR wouldn’t necessarily signal a change to the tougher stance toward China. She has said that China should be addressed forcefully and strategically.

“They both also have a long history of dealing with China’s unfair practices, the most pressing trade issue of our time,” according to former top White House trade negotiator Clete Willems. “Where Katherine’s approach is most likely to differ is on how she uses the WTO system and alliances to pressure China to change behavior.”

From 2007 to 2014, Tai successfully litigated Washington’s disputes against Beijing at the WTO, the global trade organization based in Geneva, Switzerland.

Lighthizer and his team, frustrated with what they viewed as slow-moving bureaucracy and China’s influence at the WTO and World Bank, often opted to work around the WTO and take a more direct approach through tariffs. The U.S. still has import duties on $370 billion of Chinese imports.

“As the former head of USTR’s China trade enforcement, Katherine has experience bringing and winning joint WTO disputes against China while partnering with countries like the EU and Japan and is likely to pursue a similar approach,” Willems, now a partner at Akin Gump, added in an email.

Willems also noted that Tai’s fluency in Mandarin would command respect at the negotiating table with China.

In August, Tai called for a different approach to China from the years-long tariff war waged by Lighthizer and said the use of import taxes are actually a defensive maneuver.

Rep. Don Beyer, D-Va., said in a press release Wednesday evening that Tai would be a smart choice for USTR based on their time working together on the Ways and Means Committee.

“She is exactly the right kind of cooperative leader to help return rationality to our trade policy and restore the respect of our allies around the world,” Beyer said in the release.

The committee’s chairman, Massachusetts Democrat Richard Neal, offered similar sentiments in a release on Thursday.

“Her time with Ways and Means is filled with many accomplishments, but none greater than the key role she played behind the scenes in our successful work to improve the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement and secure widespread support for its passage,” Neal said.

“As the United States seeks to repair strained relationships with our partners around the world and address increasingly perilous challenges from China, Katherine will be an honorable and effective representative for this nation, our people, and our interests,” he added.

Those comments are likely to reassure to Biden, who has suggested he would favor a return to a more multilateral, ally-based approach and a move away from President Donald Trump’s nationalist, “America First” approach.

Still, Biden said in a recent New York Times interview that he won’t immediately remove the tariffs on China and will instead weigh a variety of tactics when considering how best to compete with Beijing.

“I’m not going to make any immediate moves, and the same applies to the tariffs. I’m not going to prejudice my options,” Biden told columnist Thomas Friedman in an interview earlier this month.

The president-elect has declined to say whether he would support joining specific trade agreements. One of President Donald Trump’s first acts in office was to remove the U.S. from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which was negotiated by the Obama administration with 11 other nations.

The TPP excluded China and was a cornerstone of Obama’s efforts to cement U.S. influence in Asia. China has since signed the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership with 14 other countries, a trade agreement that excludes the U.S. and covers about 30% of the world’s economy.

Biden has promised to be more detailed about which agreements he would support after his inauguration, but has repeatedly stressed the importance of working with allies to set global trade’s “rules of the road.”

When will Biden thank Trump for grabbing China by the pussy?

 

[Bia]

Biden already picked his China Trade Rep and she's a China Hawk.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/10/biden-to-name-katherine-tai-us-trade-representative.html

President-elect Joe Biden on Thursday named Katherine Tai, a trade lawyer with a history of taking on China, as his incoming administration’s pick for the United States’ top trade representative.

I'd preferred a different K Tai, Kobe Tai

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

Trumpers with their "muh china" and "muh hunter" is cute. Like when puppies try to growl.