Battle of the 22-1 Records

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I just noticed that both Dominick Cruz and Jon Jones have identical MMA W-L records at 22-1. Who has the better resume and where would you rank them in the all time goat list?

Dominick Cruz's noticeable wins: Faber (2x), Dillashaw, Mighty Mouse, Benavidez (2x), Mizugaki, Jorgensen
Lone Loss: Faber by sub

Jon Jones' noticeable wins: Cormier, Gustafsson, Machida, Shogun, Rashad, Rampage
Lone Loss: Matt Hamill by DQ
 
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Jon Jone's competition is ridiculously higher than Cruz's, by far. It would be like comparing NFL to CFL, almost. As a matter of fact, it would be just that.
 
They both have 1 unofficial loss on their records.
Pretty much equal resumes.
But Jones other loss came via not following the rules, whilst Cruz got beat by Faber.
 
Jones is #1 p4p all time
Cruz is not even top 5
 
milenss said:
They both have 1 unofficial loss on their records.
Pretty much equal resumes.
But Jones other loss came via not following the rules, whilst Cruz got beat by Faber.
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Faber says hi
 
and they both will have a gap on their résumé.
 
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JustOnce said:
Jon Jone's competition is ridiculously higher than Cruz's, by far. It would be like comparing NFL to CFL, almost. As a matter of fact, it would be just that.
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milenss said:
They both have 1 unofficial loss on their records.
Pretty much equal resumes.
But Jones other loss came via not following the rules, whilst Cruz got beat by Faber.
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how is tapping to Faber unofficial? for that matter how is losing to DQ unofficial?
 
ElCasca said:
I think he was trying to talk about the Dillashaw and Gus fights.
Which in my eyes Dom and Jon won
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whoa! Completely missed that. Jones beat Gus and I'm still torn on the Dilly/Cruz fight. But it's official.
 
Jones way ahead.

First off Dom got beat, Jones murder/death/killed Hamil and got DQed for killing him illegally after destroying his shoulder with a legal throw.

Second is level of competition. Jones has quite a few wins over UFC champions, Dom has got 2 I believe, both have beaten guys who fight a weightclass below now. Jones has more UFC finishes and holds them over better fighters.

I like Dom, he is excellent at what he does but he never had a run as #1 p4p.
 
I will always rank Jones way above Cruz, because:

A.) He fights at a higher weight class
B.) he finishes his opponents more
C.) his opponents were of far, far better quality
 
jeff7b9 said:
Jones way ahead.

First off Dom got beat, Jones murder/death/killed Hamil and got DQed for killing him illegally after destroying his shoulder with a legal throw.

Second is level of competition. Jones has quite a few wins over UFC champions, Dom has got 2 I believe, both have beaten guys who fight a weightclass below now. Jones has more UFC finishes and holds them over better fighters.

I like Dom, he is excellent at what he does but he never had a run as #1 p4p.
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I don't know how you compare the two divisions. I'd say that Cruz has faced opponents that had similar physical attributes as him while Jones almost always had a reach and overall size advantage. He beats up on "over-sized" middleweights and decisions legit LHWs.

That's a point for Cruz.
 
Who knows how long Jonathan was juicing.

So, all his victories should technically be NC. So, in essence, Jonathan is 0-1.
 
So Jones is a steroid abuser and Dom isn't and you people still think Jon should be in the "Goat" discussion? I pray for sherdog
 
Mochan said:
I will always rank Jones way above Cruz, because:

A.) He fights at a higher weight class
B.) he finishes his opponents more
C.) his opponents were of far, far better quality
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same question for you, how do you compare the two divisions?
 
Jones by a country mile. And if you're gonna include Mizugaki AND JORGENSON for Cruz, you gotta atleast put Glover and Bonner for JJ.
 
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