Battle of the 22-1 Records

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  1. Mystic909

    Mystic909 White Belt

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    I just noticed that both Dominick Cruz and Jon Jones have identical MMA W-L records at 22-1. Who has the better resume and where would you rank them in the all time goat list?

    Dominick Cruz's noticeable wins: Faber (2x), Dillashaw, Mighty Mouse, Benavidez (2x), Mizugaki, Jorgensen
    Lone Loss: Faber by sub

    Jon Jones' noticeable wins: Cormier, Gustafsson, Machida, Shogun, Rashad, Rampage
    Lone Loss: Matt Hamill by DQ
     
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  2. JustOnce

    JustOnce Always learning

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    Jon Jone's competition is ridiculously higher than Cruz's, by far. It would be like comparing NFL to CFL, almost. As a matter of fact, it would be just that.
     
  3. hardcoreBE

    hardcoreBE Conor's No.1 Fan

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    You forgot Glover.
     
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  4. milenss

    milenss Red Belt

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    They both have 1 unofficial loss on their records.
    Pretty much equal resumes.
    But Jones other loss came via not following the rules, whilst Cruz got beat by Faber.
     
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  5. ElCasca

    ElCasca Brown Belt

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    Jones is #1 p4p all time
    Cruz is not even top 5
     
  6. JustOnce

    JustOnce Always learning

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    Faber says hi
     
  7. Lucifer Alpha

    Lucifer Alpha The Catastrophe

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    and they both will have a gap on their résumé.
     
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  8. Big Brother

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    Cruz via not getting caught by usada
     
  9. scorpipede

    scorpipede you do yo thang Baby Smurf

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    ?????????????????????????????

    how is tapping to Faber unofficial? for that matter how is losing to DQ unofficial?
     
  10. ElCasca

    ElCasca Brown Belt

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    I think he was trying to talk about the Dillashaw and Gus fights.
    Which in my eyes Dom and Jon won
     
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  11. scorpipede

    scorpipede you do yo thang Baby Smurf

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    whoa! Completely missed that. Jones beat Gus and I'm still torn on the Dilly/Cruz fight. But it's official.
     
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  12. Jedi Judah

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    Cruz is P4P #1, Jones is possibly Goat
     
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  13. jeff7b9

    jeff7b9 Silver Belt

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    Jones way ahead.

    First off Dom got beat, Jones murder/death/killed Hamil and got DQed for killing him illegally after destroying his shoulder with a legal throw.

    Second is level of competition. Jones has quite a few wins over UFC champions, Dom has got 2 I believe, both have beaten guys who fight a weightclass below now. Jones has more UFC finishes and holds them over better fighters.

    I like Dom, he is excellent at what he does but he never had a run as #1 p4p.
     
  14. And Chael
     
  15. Mochan

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    I will always rank Jones way above Cruz, because:

    A.) He fights at a higher weight class
    B.) he finishes his opponents more
    C.) his opponents were of far, far better quality
     
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  16. scorpipede

    scorpipede you do yo thang Baby Smurf

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    I don't know how you compare the two divisions. I'd say that Cruz has faced opponents that had similar physical attributes as him while Jones almost always had a reach and overall size advantage. He beats up on "over-sized" middleweights and decisions legit LHWs.

    That's a point for Cruz.
     
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  17. DaleBoca

    DaleBoca Gold Belt

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    Who knows how long Jonathan was juicing.

    So, all his victories should technically be NC. So, in essence, Jonathan is 0-1.
     
  18. Eli1015

    Eli1015 Martial Artist

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    So Jones is a steroid abuser and Dom isn't and you people still think Jon should be in the "Goat" discussion? I pray for sherdog
     
  19. scorpipede

    scorpipede you do yo thang Baby Smurf

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    same question for you, how do you compare the two divisions?
     
  20. Fifty Forty Five

    Fifty Forty Five Banned Banned

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    Jones by a country mile. And if you're gonna include Mizugaki AND JORGENSON for Cruz, you gotta atleast put Glover and Bonner for JJ.
     

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