Barao: Biggest win-streak, smallest salary

[Lucifer Alpha]

Uh are you retarded? The accuser was HIM... the article mentioned 11k/11k which was his DISCLOSED pay, that is an established fact not an accusation. The other guy made the claim that anyone who believe he was making HIS DISCLOSED pay is a moron, so HE is the accuser. Are you really that dense? No you GTFO with your junior bullshit.

Name of your "friend" who is a UFC fighter???

Why does he need to name the fighter when you can just look up the disclosed salaries of anyone to see how this works.

UFC 158: George Roop: $16,000 ($8,000 to show, $8,000 win bonus)
UFC 160: George Roop: $26,000 (includes $13,000 win bonus)

So not only do you believe Barao has not received a pay raise in four title fights, but he also makes less than George Roop.

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

Nice justification for a monopoly that drives down what fighters are "worth".. then again I wouldn't expect any less from a delusional right winger like you.

As your left-wing hero John Oliver would say, I have no need to argue with you: what I said is unassailable fact. Arguing whether or not the UFC is a monopoly is like arguing whether 15 is more than 5.

What I said was 100% accurate, comrade. How old are you? Late teens, early 20s at most? Yeah, thought so. You think poor Renan Barao is the MMA equivalent of some exploited pre-pubescent factory worker in Taiwan making iPads or some shit. The guy is making decent money. Go fight for Bellator, WSOF, or OneFC if they'll offer more money. Hint: they won't, and he knows that. MMA is not a big sport; it's a niche. The UFC doesn't have a monopoly, you simpleton, they just have a far better product with deeper roots than the other guys. That's something to be applauded, not derided. But hey, you sound like a socialist, so I might as well be debating with a red brick wall.

 

[HIMBOB]

branchtan is so stubborn and biased that he's willing to turn his brain off completely.

None is so blind as he who refuses to see.

 

[branchtan]

As your left-wing hero John Oliver would say, I have no need to argue with you: what I said is unassailable fact. Arguing whether or not the UFC is a monopoly is like arguing whether 15 is more than 5.

What I said was 100% accurate, comrade. How old are you? Late teens, early 20s at most? Yeah, thought so. You think poor Renan Barao is the MMA equivalent of some exploited pre-pubescent factory worker in Taiwan making iPads or some shit. The guy is making decent money. Go fight for Bellator, WSOF, or OneFC if they'll offer more money. Hint: they won't, and he knows that. MMA is not a big sport; it's a niche. The UFC doesn't have a monopoly, you simpleton, they just have a far better product with deeper roots than the other guys. That's something to be applauded, not derided. But hey, you sound like a socialist, so I might as well be debating with a red brick wall.

First of all quit making assumptions about my age and heroes: there's no need to personalize the discussion and cloud it with irrelevant points... and quite frankly you come across as a creep. FYI Nah John Oliver isn't my hero.

Monopolies have >75 percent of market share. http://business-law.freeadvice.com/business-law/trade_regulation/monopoly_power.htm

When you factor in money made from PPV buys, Merchandising, and TV dealers the UFC easily reaches that despite Bellator coming up. So again, you are wrong.

Where did I say Bararo is like some child slave laborer? No where, he makes decent money but not as much as he should. Your post is full one strawman after another. Oh and I sound like a socialist because I said the UFC is a monopoly? Ok now I know you are a moron.

 

[A Muse of Fire]

Individually yes they are tenuous but in combination they are near irrefutable.

What do you think he gets?



I'd say about 100k.

Do you mean 50k to show and 50k to win?

That seems likely. I really doubt it is 100k to show and 100k to win.

 

[Lucifer Alpha]

For comparison, DJ makes a disclosed 125k with a win, with an extra 50k from bonuses.

 

[branchtan]

None is so blind as he who refuses to see.

By the way theory that he's already renegotiating his contract is a bunch of crap:

"It is what it is, we're working for it to improve. I hope that after this fight i can have a much better contract. I hope it improves every day. This depends on the contract, but I hope they remember that I saved an event." - RB

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/cagewriter/ufc-champ-renan-barao-unhappy-with-contract-210305160.html

So unless he's full of shit, he's looking to renegotiate AFTER the Dillshaw fight. Nice proverb though.

 

[HIMBOB]

Do you mean 50k to show and 50k to win?

That seems likely. I really doubt it is 100k to show and 100k to win.

100k guaranteed per fight.

 

[Vektor]

I learned something new today. Ugly dudes aren't marketable and MMA fans only want to watch hot guys fight, otherwise they don't tune in. Oh, wait I forgot. MMA enjoys a 56% female fan base.

 

[branchtan]

Why does he need to name the fighter when you can just look up the disclosed salaries of anyone to see how this works.

UFC 158: George Roop: $16,000 ($8,000 to show, $8,000 win bonus)
UFC 160: George Roop: $26,000 (includes $13,000 win bonus)

So not only do you believe Barao has not received a pay raise in four title fights, but he also makes less than George Roop.

It all depends on what kind of contract you signed in the beginning and we can only speculate on that. When RB signed his initial contract, he wasn't worth as much he is now, he was just another no name more or less like Roop. For every example like that, I can show you an example where the pay doesn't increase the next fight with a win. Nice try though.

 

[HIMBOB]

By the way theory that he's already renegotiating his contract is a bunch of crap:

"It is what it is, we're working for it to improve. I hope that after this fight i can have a much better contract. I hope it improves every day. This depends on the contract, but I hope they remember that I saved an event." - RB

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/cagewriter/ufc-champ-renan-barao-unhappy-with-contract-210305160.html

So unless he's full of shit, he's looking to renegotiate AFTER the Dillshaw fight. Nice proverb though.

My theory was he had already renegoitated it just prior to when Dana started mentioning him in p4p talk.

Just because he wants to do it again doesn't mean he hasn't done it before.

 

[A Muse of Fire]

For comparison, DJ makes a disclosed 125k with a win, with an extra 50k from bonuses.

so is that 62.5 k to show plys win money?
.

Is the 50 In addition to the 125k part of it?

Any way 125 for a main event champ fight seem low edoeacilly if tgat includes the to win money

 

[HIMBOB]

It all depends on what kind of contract you signed in the beginning and we can only speculate on that. When RB signed his initial contract, he wasn't worth as much he is now, he was just another no name more or less like Roop. For every example like that, I can show you an example where the pay doesn't increase the next fight with a win. Nice try though.

Can you show me 2 examples of new guys on the low end of the wage scale whose pay doesn't increase?

 

[Lucifer Alpha]

It all depends on what kind of contract you signed in the beginning and we can only speculate on that. When RB signed his initial contract, he wasn't worth as much he is now, he was just another no name more or less like Roop. For every example like that, I can show you an example where the pay doesn't increase the next fight with a win. Nice try though.

Go ahead.

 

[branchtan]

Ok Senior Sherdog posters let my double yellow ass bury you with more facts.

Why does he need to name the fighter when you can just look up the disclosed salaries of anyone to see how this works.

UFC 158: George Roop: $16,000 ($8,000 to show, $8,000 win bonus)
UFC 160: George Roop: $26,000 (includes $13,000 win bonus)

That works for some fighters and doesn't for others, example Faber:

UFC on FOX 9
Urijah Faber: $200,000 ($100,000 to show, $100,000 to win)
Michael McDonald: $17,000

Fabers beat MM, his pay is 100k to show (another 100 to win)

http://www.mmamania.com/2013/12/15/...ries-urijah-faber-demetrious-johnson-csac-mma

UFC 169
Urijah Faber: $100,000

http://mma-manifesto.com/ufc-fighte...ufc-169-fighter-salaries-attendance-gate.html

Faber losses to RB, still gets 100k to show and obviously no win bonus for this one.

Notice how despite his win against MM, he did not receive a base pay bump? So yeah mr. Alpha, I looked it up like you said and your argument is crap. inb4 you discredit the sources, because that is the only thing you can do to save face.

100k guaranteed per fight.

So I just established from 2 different sources that Fabers makes 100k to show.

Notice this quote when Yahoo interviewed RB:

"Actually, an example: I know that Faber is a much older guy in the UFC, but he's not even the champion and has a much better purse than mine." -RB

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/cagewriter/ufc-champ-renan-barao-unhappy-with-contract-210305160.html

So if Faber makes 100k to show and Renan is complaining that Fabers makes a much better purse than him, you're guess that Renan is making 100k to show is way off.

I'd guess Renan makes 45k to show at most and that is generous.

 

[Evangelion]

The fact someone is arguing this is his still salary when his source states it likely isn't is hilarious. Barao does not make11/11, nice try tard

 

[Lucifer Alpha]

Ok Senior Sherdog posters let my double yellow ass bury you with more facts.



That works for some fighters and doesn't for others, example Faber:

UFC on FOX 9
Urijah Faber: $200,000 ($100,000 to show, $100,000 to win)
Michael McDonald: $17,000

Fabers beat MM, his pay is 100k to show (another 100 to win)

http://www.mmamania.com/2013/12/15/...ries-urijah-faber-demetrious-johnson-csac-mma

UFC 169
Urijah Faber: $100,000

http://mma-manifesto.com/ufc-fighte...ufc-169-fighter-salaries-attendance-gate.html

Faber losses to RB, still gets 100k to show and obviously no win bonus for this one.

Notice how despite his win against MM, he did not receive a base pay bump? So yeah mr. Alpha, I looked it up like you said and your argument is crap. inb4 you discredit the sources, because that is the only thing you can do to save face.



So I just established from 2 different sources that Fabers makes 100k to show.

Notice this quote when Yahoo interviewed RB:

"Actually, an example: I know that Faber is a much older guy in the UFC, but he's not even the champion and has a much better purse than mine." -RB

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/cagewriter/ufc-champ-renan-barao-unhappy-with-contract-210305160.html

So if Faber makes 100k to show and Renan is complaining that Fabers makes a much better purse than him, you're guess that Renan is making 100k to show is way off.

I'd guess Renan makes 45k to show at most and that is generous.

Before we go any further, we should note that the New Jersey Athletic Commission doesn’t release fighter pay info, so none of the following salary data for the event is official.

All that work only to make yourself look like even more of an idiot. Good job.

 

[Lucifer Alpha]

Here ya go branchtan, since you're unable to do this right.


UFC Fight Night 26: Urijah Faber $120,000 ($60,000 to show, $60,000 win bonus)
UFC on FOX 9: Urijah Faber $200,000 ($100,000 to show, $100,000 to win)

 

[Bubson Bubba]

 

[Helano]

By the way theory that he's already renegotiating his contract is a bunch of crap:

"It is what it is, we're working for it to improve. I hope that after this fight i can have a much better contract. I hope it improves every day. This depends on the contract, but I hope they remember that I saved an event." - RB

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/cagewriter/ufc-champ-renan-barao-unhappy-with-contract-210305160.html

So unless he's full of shit, he's looking to renegotiate AFTER the Dillshaw fight. Nice proverb though.

Actually, he said that the guy that did the interview that did this shit, when he only said "the contract is good, but if they offered me more, would be even better"
He only said the desire of pretty much everyone on sports: "I like my money, but i think you can give me more"
Source? http://sportv.globo.com/site/combate/noticia/2014/05/barao-admite-que-precisa-se-divulgar-mais-mas-mantem-foco-nos-treinos.html#atleta-renan-barao (and sorry if my english is crap.)