Axle Clean and Press

[KnuckleSangwich]

Wondering what the benefits of this lift are, if any, to the everyday lifter. I searched google and sherdog S&C past posts and haven't found anything about this question specifically.

Lift looks potentially more dangerous than beneficial. This video is an admittedly dangerous example of the form. I believe it is a form of training the "Log Press" found in strong man using a barbell rather than the actual log used.

Just wondering posters thoughts on this.

 

[MASShole]

No benefits to the every day lifter. It's like a continental clean and press, only with awful form and potentially harmful movements.

The axle has a bigger handle vs a normal bar, which is part of the appeal.

 

[KnuckleSangwich]

No benefits to the every day lifter. It's like a continental clean and press, only with awful form and potentially harmful movements.

The axle has a bigger handle vs a normal bar, which is part of the appeal.

Thanks for the info MASS. This was my gut reaction but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Any benefit to the continental clean and press or is this strictly a strongman movement? Maybe the weight stabilization at awkward angles as you jerk the weight up your torso....:icon_conf

 

[Tosa]

I agree with MASShole, out side of strongman, there's no real reason to train an axle clean and press. But if you want to try it for fun, and for the sake of completeness, take a look at how it's done in this video.

 

[turbozed]

Thanks for the info MASS. This was my gut reaction but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Any benefit to the continental clean and press or is this strictly a strongman movement? Maybe the weight stabilization at awkward angles as you jerk the weight up your torso....:icon_conf

Well he did it all wrong. The continental clean does have a 'proper form' and it used to be a lift in Olympic weightlifting way back in the day. To me it looks like an altered hang clean with the bar resting on your belly/belt.

 

[KnuckleSangwich]

I agree with MASShole, out side of strongman, there's no real reason to train an axle clean and press. But if you want to try it for fun, and for the sake of completeness, take a look at how it's done in this video.

Thanks Tosa. I think I'll stick with my deads and OH press'. Best to leave the viking strength to Svend.

 

[JauntyAngle]

Why is the axle harder than a regular olympic bar? Is it because it is thicker, or because the weight is unstable in some way?

 

[Deleted member 130905]

It's thicker and there is another reason that is escaping me. The pins don't rotate I think?

C&Ping with an axle is awesome, but unless you're training for strongman there isn't much benefit that a regular C&P couldn't give you. If you want a wicked grip workout, deadlift with a axle. That shit is both painful and humbling.

 

[Tosa]

There are specially made axles/fat bars that spin.

 

[XTrainer]

I wouldn't dismiss axles as readily as the rest of your. As a replacement for barbells? No. But, like kettlebells, they have their uses. Most of us could benefit from thick bar training once in a while. If I had regular access to an axle, you bet I'd be using it.

 

[Tosa]

I'm not dismissing the use of a fat bar, just saying that I wouldn't use it regularly for clean and presses...maybe once in a while for fun/variety. I could see using them for rows, deadlifts, or even *gasp* curls, after I got the heavy stuff in, for grip work, or maybe if I wanted to take it easy on everything else except grip (coming back from an injury perhaps). Or using one for various presses. Or timed holds.

 

[KnuckleSangwich]

So say you were to work the fat bar in to your clean and press routine for a day every other week or so for variety. I imagine this would have to be at somewhat of a lower weight to manage the thicker bar. It would obviously help with grip strength but being at a lower weight would you actually see gains on your normal barbell clean and presses from doing this?

 

[Standard]

So say you were to work the fat bar in to your clean and press routine for a day every other week or so for variety. I imagine this would have to be at somewhat of a lower weight to manage the thicker bar. It would obviously help with grip strength but being at a lower weight would you actually see gains on your normal barbell clean and presses from doing this?

I would bet most people are limited in their clean and press by form rather than grip strength, so i would assume no real benefit to your BB clean from axel work.

 

[milano]

So say you were to work the fat bar in to your clean and press routine for a day every other week or so for variety. I imagine this would have to be at somewhat of a lower weight to manage the thicker bar. It would obviously help with grip strength but being at a lower weight would you actually see gains on your normal barbell clean and presses from doing this?

No.

 

[MASShole]

I use the axle for pressing exercises, and I use Fat Gripz on a lot of other movements like rows, pulldowns, etc. I have nothing against the fat bar, and I like using it, but I think this movement posted is ugly and ridiculous.