Avoiding injuries in Judo/Sambo?

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  1. Ogata

    Ogata Silver Belt

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    I understand that Judo and Sambo are a rough grappling style and that throws are dangerous because of the gravity and the wear and tear is greater in stand up grappling then in ground fighting.

    With that being said, do you recommend any ways,methods to avoid injuries?

    The reason is, I dabble in judo from time to time and I notice that instructors that have been doing judo for a longtime have really messed up shoulders and knees. Is this a product of stubborn training and a die hard attitude or is this the nature of Judo and Sambo and there is no way to avoid it?
     
  2. magick

    magick Green Belt

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    Learn to breakfall better/don't struggle against throws and foot-sweeps needlessly/relax.
     
  3. Bluesbreaker

    Bluesbreaker Black Belt

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    I've heard different theories, my my opinion is if you do it enough, injuries will just happen. It doesn't matter how well you learn to fall, you will eventually find yourself in positions that aren't so good and things will get hurt.
     
  4. Mistabutts

    Mistabutts Orange Belt

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    Warm up and stretch properly.


    But that will only do so much, injuries are pretty unavoidable.

    Floors hurt.

    Fall down 7 times get up 8.
     
  5. Thai Otoshi

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    Most of the old instructors are just that... old.

    If you do any contact sport well into your 50's and 60's, your body's going to show signs of wear and tear too.
     
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    Echo5O Green Belt

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    Most injuries I see in judo are when people fight getting thrown too much or when their training partner has too little control or expertise. I had a younger inexperienced judoka (I am also rather inexperienced) mess up my knee because he got too competitive in randori and tried a throw he didn't know how to do properly.
    I rarely see anyone hurt themselves actually taking a fall. Mostly it is while fighting to avoid being thrown.
     
  7. Thai Otoshi

    Thai Otoshi Gold Belt

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    That's true.

    I had a training partner once try to stop his fall from a tani otoshi by posting his near leg in between both of mine. Snap, crackle, pop went his ankle.

    He ended up being fine for the most part, and was back to training the next week, but damn didn't I feel bad. Nidan kosoto ever since.
     
  8. futang17

    futang17 Green Belt

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    I love the principle this saying trying to convey but it doesn't pass the math test... :(
     
  9. seatea

    seatea Black Belt

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    There will be injuries. First, I'll reiterate what the others have said; learn to breakfall, and don't fight throws. Secondly - pick your partners wisely, don't be afraid to say no to someone who you think is liable to injure to. Stick to training with higher grades when possible. Third - if you are injured then rest!
     
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    Einarr Banned Banned

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    Ukemi.
     
  11. jclaudevandamme

    jclaudevandamme Blue Belt

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    Breakfall/ukemi. Train it until it does not hurt so much anymore. My only injury in Judo so far was due to trying to break a fall with my arm. I was luck it only costed me 1 month and half without training or lifting.

    Also, working out. One squat a day keeps the orthopedist away.
     
  12. Zankou

    Zankou Bringing peace and love Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Missing practice today due to back injury from training last week. Sux. Hope it's just this one week that I'll be out.
     
  13. Chungungo

    Chungungo Getting some snow

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    Squat is so great for everything, I like to do olympic squats...

    Well ,for the thread creator, if you are a tall guy don
     
  14. Mistabutts

    Mistabutts Orange Belt

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    It does if you start the count while on your back. haha
     
  15. Waxwingslain

    Waxwingslain oiseau rebelle

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    +1 for Ukemi.

    Being physically strong and fit helps.

    Try and find training partners who can at least grasp the concept of partner safety.

    Pay attention during uchikomi. For example, you might be expecting to be thrown on the 20th rep and your partner suddenly throws you on the 10th rep - this can lead to bad landings.

    Use a crash mat for hard nagekomi.

    That said, if you are going to get really competitive, injuries are pretty much inevitable.
     
  16. RJ Green

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    it's a contact sport. you're going to get injured.

    that said, i maintain drop throws put too much pressure on the knee. it'll either be a time when uke is a *bit* too heavy and your knees hit at a hard/wrong angle, or just a repetition injury.

    almost every drop throw specialist i have ever known, from college champion to national champion, has needed new ACLs.
     
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    Chungungo Getting some snow

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