International Australia's Position in Asia-Pacific Geopolitics, as Beijing's Rising Shadow Casts Over Region.

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by Arkain2K, May 4, 2018.

  1. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2010
    Messages:
    25,247
    Likes Received:
    15,242
    Location:
    Orange County, California.
    Those "Confucious Institutes" are a lot more dangerous than the sheep, I think.

    The U.S (and Canada) gave them the boot a long time ago when it became clear that their main purpose is not to teach about Chinese culture, but serves as a propaganda arm of the Chinese Communist Party.


    Chinese program in Australian schools under review amid propaganda claims
    By Rosemary Bolger | May 8, 2018

    [​IMG]

    The NSW Government has confirmed it is reviewing a Chinese Government-sponsored education program amid claims school children are being exposed to propaganda.

    The Confucius Classrooms program is being taught in 13 public schools across the state by teaching assistants appointed by the Chinese Communist Party.

    Critics, including Charles Sturt University's public ethics professor Clive Hamilton, say the Confucius Classrooms program is being used to spread Communist propaganda.

    “The objective of the Confucius Classroom is to spread a positive image of Communist Party rule in China. And so anything that might be a negative to detract from Communist Party history in China is whited out, students don’t hear about it,” Professor Hamilton told SBS News.

    The Chinese education program was an initiative of Hanban's Confucius Institute in Beijing.

    In previous years, the institute hosted school principals in China for over a week - funding food, accommodation and travel in the country.



    To qualify for the junket, principals needed to express an interest in setting up Confucius Classrooms in their own schools when they returned home.

    This year’s trip was postponed while the NSW Education Department conducted a review into its relationship with the Confucius Institute.

    NSW Education Minister Rob Stokes said he wanted to ensure the education system is independent and maintains high standards of integrity.

    "There are some questions that we need to ask, and while those questions are being asked we are suspending the trips that the principals have been undertaking, just to allow us to do this review to make sure that the program, its objective and its mission accords with community standards", Mr Stokes said.

    [​IMG]

    Confucius Classrooms had been established in 13 schools across NSW.

    The schools were promised thousands of dollars’ worth of learning materials and a $10,000 start-up grant in exchange for allowing Chinese government-appointed teachers to assists in classrooms as “native speakers”.

    A Hanban news article from September last year reported, since its founding in 2004, the Confucius Institute had set up more than 1,000 primary and secondary school 'Confucius Classrooms' in 142 countries, with 2.1 million students.

    In 2016, questions were raised in NSW over the appropriateness of outsourcing school lessons to a foreign government body.

    Sam Dastyari, who resigned from federal parliament last year over his links to China, was general secretary of the NSW Labor Party when the deal to start the Confucius Classrooms program was struck by the then-Labor state government.

    NSW Primary Principals Association President Phil Seymour said, while it's important to form ties with China and other Asian countries, principals are advised to tread carefully before accepting junkets from foreign institutions.

    “I would always talk to our senior officers in the department beforehand,” Mr Seymour said.

    Charles Sturt University’s Professor Hamilton called for Australian universities that engage with the Confucius Institute to conduct their own reviews into the organisation’s role in Australian tertiary education.

    "They're not the innocent cultural centres that they claim to be but have a propaganda purpose for the Communist Party, and the sooner Australian Universities wake up to that fact and close down their Confucius Institutes the better," Professor Hamilton said.

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/chinese...n-schools-under-review-amid-propaganda-claims
     
    uppercutbus likes this.
  2. Soul Crusher

    Soul Crusher Eternal Double Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2018
    Messages:
    4,000
    Likes Received:
    3,973
    This thread got racist real fast.
    <23>
    You're not questioning diversification now are you?
     
    uppercutbus likes this.
  3. LatFlare

    LatFlare EADC

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2013
    Messages:
    7,294
    Likes Received:
    3,147
    Location:
    Watching a snail crawl along a straight razor.
    Lately yes. While i understand your rationale for voting the independents, i disagree with the principle of a minority independent exploiting the hung parliament.
     
  4. LatFlare

    LatFlare EADC

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2013
    Messages:
    7,294
    Likes Received:
    3,147
    Location:
    Watching a snail crawl along a straight razor.
    Beat it m8.
     
    Neph likes this.
  5. Soul Crusher

    Soul Crusher Eternal Double Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2018
    Messages:
    4,000
    Likes Received:
    3,973
    The Chinese are taking over and this is your response?

    I guess the diversification brainwashing in Australia is just as strong as it is in Canada, the US, the UK, Western Europe and Scandinavia.
     
    uppercutbus likes this.
  6. Ruprecht

    Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Messages:
    32,799
    Likes Received:
    14,899
    Clive Hamilton is far from an objective source on Chinese interference and influence. He's selling a book, one which is a new twist on old themes.
    Funnily enough, the authoritarian laws he proposes would actually have a greater impact on American sponsored groups here than on the Chinese.
    Because there's more American investment money...

    https://theconversation.com/book-re...-invasion-chinas-influence-in-australia-93650
    https://www.australianbookreview.co...na-s-influence-in-australia-by-clive-hamilton
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/the...or-all-the-wrong-reasons-20180227-p4z1x7.html
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ar...n/news-story/6e932325c519f0c4a5b8ebd4fbd9e989
     
  7. LatFlare

    LatFlare EADC

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2013
    Messages:
    7,294
    Likes Received:
    3,147
    Location:
    Watching a snail crawl along a straight razor.
    Na i misunderstood where you were coming from.
     
    Soul Crusher likes this.
  8. LatFlare

    LatFlare EADC

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2013
    Messages:
    7,294
    Likes Received:
    3,147
    Location:
    Watching a snail crawl along a straight razor.
    even if Clive is a boob, why would we need Chinese govt sponsored programs in Aus schools?
     
    ShinkanPo likes this.
  9. Ruprecht

    Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Messages:
    32,799
    Likes Received:
    14,899
    Yeah, they shouldn't be integrated with our schools and universities, and they are a propaganda operation, but then so are all those institutes/councils/programs (Goethe-Insitut, Alliance Francaise, Instituto Cervantes, British Council etc etc).
    My issue with Clive is that he's an alarmist. He presents Chinese soft power as a prelude to an invasion/takeover, and labels anyone that thinks economic development is the best way to deal with China as an "appeaser".
     
  10. LatFlare

    LatFlare EADC

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2013
    Messages:
    7,294
    Likes Received:
    3,147
    Location:
    Watching a snail crawl along a straight razor.
    What do you think its a prelude to?

    What do you think they are reclaiming those islands for in theSC sea? To build a couple of holiday resorts? C'mon..
     
    ShinkanPo likes this.
  11. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2010
    Messages:
    25,247
    Likes Received:
    15,242
    Location:
    Orange County, California.
    Australia Weighs the Cost of Resisting China's Meddling
    By Jason Scott | May 9, 2018

    [​IMG]
    Li Keqiang in Sydney in March 2017​

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...weighs-the-cost-of-resisting-china-s-meddling
     
    ShinkanPo likes this.
  12. ShinkanPo

    ShinkanPo Wild Imam

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2011
    Messages:
    27,474
    Likes Received:
    17,026
    Location:
    Strange Realm
    Some people say its okay because those missiles in those islands is only aimed againts the united states.
     
  13. Magooglie

    Magooglie Steel Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2004
    Messages:
    31,098
    Likes Received:
    6,744
    Australia will be forced to be China's little buddy
     
  14. Soul Crusher

    Soul Crusher Eternal Double Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2018
    Messages:
    4,000
    Likes Received:
    3,973
    My apologies, good sir! With progress running amok I should have /sarcasm.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2010
    Messages:
    25,247
    Likes Received:
    15,242
    Location:
    Orange County, California.
    Australia hikes Pacific aid as China pushes into area
    It pledges over $1.3b and refocuses aid plans amid worries over strategic balance in region
    May 11, 2018​

    https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/australia-hikes-pacific-aid-as-china-pushes-into-area
     
    Last edited: May 12, 2018
    ShinkanPo likes this.
  16. Ruprecht

    Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Messages:
    32,799
    Likes Received:
    14,899
    Every nation uses soft power as part of their foreign policy. The Chinese are much less aggressive with it compared to the US or Russia, especially in terms of propaganda (their development loans are comparable to US aid).
    No, I don't think the Chinese are planning an invasion. Soft power is an alternative to hard power, not a prelude. They aren't extending their influence through development with investment and loans throughout the pacific Islands as a prelude to invading them. It would cost too much and net them nothing. They don't need to, it's an economic hegemony they are extending.
    China has enough trouble hanging on to their border states, let alone their border contests with Japan, Taiwan and India. There's a big difference between A2/AD and mounting an invasion.
     
    LatFlare likes this.
  17. Hunter Simpson

    Hunter Simpson 2GM/c^2 belt

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2009
    Messages:
    15,596
    Likes Received:
    12,471
    Location:
    The Black Hole of Self-examination
    Closer to the US than it is to Canada? I don't think so.
     
  18. Hunter Simpson

    Hunter Simpson 2GM/c^2 belt

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2009
    Messages:
    15,596
    Likes Received:
    12,471
    Location:
    The Black Hole of Self-examination
    FWIW, some in Canada share the concern about Chinese influence. Massive amounts of Chinese money are pouring into the country and they are buying up real estate left and right, raising prices practically from coast to coast.
     
    ShinkanPo and Tropodan like this.
  19. Tropodan

    Tropodan Red Belt Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2014
    Messages:
    9,798
    Likes Received:
    9,657
    Location:
    Canada eh!
    Australia has liberalized just in time for China to strategically flood the country with immigrants for political influence lol.

    Aaaah liberals......
     
  20. Tropodan

    Tropodan Red Belt Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2014
    Messages:
    9,798
    Likes Received:
    9,657
    Location:
    Canada eh!
    That's racist!!!

    Interesting how there isnt one east Asian in Trudeaus cabinet.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.