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Attention Sherdog: the IV ban is about drugs, not weight

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Pseudo Sane, Aug 25, 2015.

  1. Pseudo Sane Black Belt

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    I have seen a lot of people missing the point on the IV ban.

    There is a significant contingent that seems to think that the purpose of the IV ban has something to do with weight cutting.

    This is wrong. It is not about weight, but to prevent blood doping and masking PEDs, per USADA protocols:
    http://www.usada.org/is-it-prohibit...g-iv-infusions-for-re-hydration-and-recovery/

    Here is the most important quote:

    The other thing to take away is that oral hydration, done properly, is just as effective as using an IV. The only people who are trained on fight night will be the people who fuck up their cut and rehydration, same as now.

    TLDR: There is not going to be some great revolution in the weight classes.

    Weight cutting is here to stay.
     
  2. Forza Tifosi Gold Belt

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    It's not about the cause, it's about the consequences.
     
  3. SimonNova Worship and forget

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    This. It his heavy of consequences.
     
  4. Toco Steel Belt

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    haha

    and on the fight companion they said that oral hydration wasnt as effective on extreme weight cuts, and thats what ufc fighters do

    and actually i couldnt care less since it seems to be easy to bypass the iv ban
     
  5. Credo Proper Gold

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    Good thread TS. Good info.
     
  6. ZuffaExecutive Red Belt

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    I think the vast majority know why there doing there doing the iv ban.But it still seems stupid to me.They dont test for recreational drugs more then 3 days either side of a fight i believe.

    So your doing random out of competition testing all year round.Dont test for plasticides within 6 days of a fight so they can use iv`s.Test for it outside of fight night.
     
  7. warriorsman You can run but you can’t hide

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    Half of Sherdog thinks it's against weight cutting.
     
  8. warriorsman You can run but you can’t hide

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    IV ban is against PEDs, PEDs are banned out of competition.

    What is your argument? That PEDs are fine out of competition?
     
  9. Goatenstein Black Belt

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    If fighters lack the confidence to fight closer to their real size I don't care if their health suffers.
     
  10. ZuffaExecutive Red Belt

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    The argument is let them use an iv and test for blood doping the other 300 + days of a year
     
  11. False.
     
  12. Pseudo Sane Black Belt

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    Again, it is about masking. Using am IV on the eve of a fight can throw off fight night testing.

    Which, as I understand it, is why WADA no likey.
     
  13. trblesome1 Silver Belt

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    I know the reason it was put in place but I really hope it stops the extreme cutting

    Do people honestly believe the Conor we seen against Mendes was the best version of himself? He was soo drained he almost looked like a crackhead on a binge out there, guys need to stop it already and move up to where they can function normally
     
  14. Clippy I'm a lumberjack and that's OK

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    I agree. Some fighters cut too damn much and it's stupid and is killing them.
     
  15. dc007 mr. white belt

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    Yes. The UFC and Commissions don't give a shit what weight you cut to so long as you don't miss weight. This is 100% about drug masking. But it will have some negative effects on fighter performance so expect more of this:

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  16. Pseudo Sane Black Belt

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    Doesn't seem to be the case, except for fighters insisting that it is. See what an actual expert has to say:

     
  17. xMyKRo Green Belt

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    I still don't understand how they will enforce this ban. Like Jose Aldo said, they aren't going to follow him to his hotel room. Or if he goes to a hospital severely dehydrated, they will give an IV.
     
  18. IngaVovchanchyn Titanium Belt Platinum Member

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    Yep. You nailed it with deadly accuracy.

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  19. $uicideboy$ ROPE GANG Banned

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    attention sherdog: no one cares
     
  20. The_Renaissance Sherdog Bunceweight Champion

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    Its impossible to reinforce.

    Is the dude in charge gonna spend 24hrs visiting 28 fighters hotel rooms to make sure they aren't using an IV?

    No.
     

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