Elections Atlantic Report: Bernie tried to primary against Obama in 2012

[HockeyBjj]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elec...-to-primary-obama/ar-BB10ai0G?ocid=spartandhp

Bernie Sanders got so close to running a primary challenge to President Barack Obama that Senator Harry Reid had to intervene to stop him.

It took Reid two conversations over the summer of 2011 to get Sanders to scrap the idea, according to multiple people who remember the incident, which has not been previously reported.

That summer, Sanders privately discussed a potential primary challenge to Obama with several people, including Patrick Leahy, his fellow Vermont senator. Leahy, alarmed, warned Jim Messina, Obama’s presidential reelection-campaign manager. Obama’s campaign team was “absolutely panicked” by Leahy’s report, Messina told me, since “every president who has gotten a real primary has lost a general [election].”
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Bernie Bros and vote blue no matter who types who would perfer someone other than Democratic Socialist Sanders as the Dem nominee, how far do you think the progressive vs centrist (I guess? would that be the best word for the Biden/Buttigieg/Klobuchar supporter wings?) chasm has grown and will continue to grow?

Think it'll heal enough to defeat trump in November, or will too many dem voters stay home because it wasn't the candidate type they wanted?

 

[method115]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elec...-to-primary-obama/ar-BB10ai0G?ocid=spartandhp

Bernie Sanders got so close to running a primary challenge to President Barack Obama that Senator Harry Reid had to intervene to stop him.

It took Reid two conversations over the summer of 2011 to get Sanders to scrap the idea, according to multiple people who remember the incident, which has not been previously reported.

That summer, Sanders privately discussed a potential primary challenge to Obama with several people, including Patrick Leahy, his fellow Vermont senator. Leahy, alarmed, warned Jim Messina, Obama’s presidential reelection-campaign manager. Obama’s campaign team was “absolutely panicked” by Leahy’s report, Messina told me, since “every president who has gotten a real primary has lost a general [election].”
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Bernie Bros and vote blue no matter who types who would perfer someone other than Democratic Socialist Sanders as the Dem nominee, how far do you think the progressive vs centrist (I guess? would that be the best word for the Biden/Buttigieg/Klobuchar supporter wings?) chasm has grown and will continue to grow?

Think it'll heal enough to defeat trump in November, or will too many dem voters stay home because it wasn't the candidate type they wanted?

I don't really know that there is any progressive vs centrist thing going on right now. The top second choice for every dem running is Bernie. I think this sort of thing is happening on the internet but most people don't give a shit.

 

[rob mafia]

i think most berniebros have no idea what his platform actually is. and i mean... like, literally no idea (gun bans, companies forced to report their minorities/gays to the govt, forced communism/dilution of all publicly traded companies, red flag laws, etc)

i suspect if his fans knew what he's proposing, a lot of them would disappear.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

I don't really know that there is any progressive vs centrist thing going on right now. The top second choice for every dem running is Bernie. I think this sort of thing is happening on the internet but most people don't give a shit.

That's not true (according to this https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/)

Biden is 2nd among Bloomberg supports and Bloomberg is 2nd among Pete supporters

 

[Sketch]

Bernie bros will stay home and sulk when they don't get their way. The Trotsky types will become even more venomous online.

 

[ultramanhyata]

If true, it increases my respect for Sanders. Some of us knew by 2012 that Obama was a "radical progressive" Trojan horse who was owned by Wall Street.

 

[method115]

That's not true (according to this https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/)

Biden is 2nd among Bloomberg supports and Bloomberg is 2nd among Pete supporters

Ah ok the last time I saw the polls bloomberg wasn't even an option.

 

[method115]

Bernie bros will stay home and sulk when they don't get their way. The Trotsky types will become even more venomous online.

If Bernie fans don't get their way that means Bloomberg won. Who could blame anyone for staying home at that point?

 

[franklinstower]

I don't really know that there is any progressive vs centrist thing going on right now. The top second choice for every dem running is Bernie. I think this sort of thing is happening on the internet but most people don't give a shit.

This is accurate. We are at war with each other (no reason to deny it) but the enemy of my enemy is my friend and I will skip and sing all the way to the voting booth no matter who it is that is running against Trump.

Once we deal with Trump we can finish kicking all the corrupt half effort people out of the party.

 

[Phisher]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elec...-to-primary-obama/ar-BB10ai0G?ocid=spartandhp

Bernie Sanders got so close to running a primary challenge to President Barack Obama that Senator Harry Reid had to intervene to stop him.

It took Reid two conversations over the summer of 2011 to get Sanders to scrap the idea, according to multiple people who remember the incident, which has not been previously reported.

That summer, Sanders privately discussed a potential primary challenge to Obama with several people, including Patrick Leahy, his fellow Vermont senator. Leahy, alarmed, warned Jim Messina, Obama’s presidential reelection-campaign manager. Obama’s campaign team was “absolutely panicked” by Leahy’s report, Messina told me, since “every president who has gotten a real primary has lost a general [election].”
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Bernie Bros and vote blue no matter who types who would perfer someone other than Democratic Socialist Sanders as the Dem nominee, how far do you think the progressive vs centrist (I guess? would that be the best word for the Biden/Buttigieg/Klobuchar supporter wings?) chasm has grown and will continue to grow?

Think it'll heal enough to defeat trump in November, or will too many dem voters stay home because it wasn't the candidate type they wanted?

The author of this article got called out on Twitter for burying the lede. The reason that Bernie did this was because Obama and Biden were trying to negotiate a deal with the Republicans to cut Social Security. A significant number of Democrats in Congress also fervently opposed Obama's position on entitlement cuts, and he eventually had to backtrack.







https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrew...hrows-in-the-towel-on-social-security-reform/

 

[Phisher]

That's not true (according to this https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/)

Biden is 2nd among Bloomberg supports and Bloomberg is 2nd among Pete supporters

Bernie was the second choice of Biden supporters up until Bloomberg started his ad blitz. After that debate performance, I don't think Bloomy's current position in the polls is going to last very long.

 

[franklinstower]

The author of this article got called out on Twitter for burying the lede. The reason that Bernie did this was because Obama and Biden were trying to negotiate a deal with the Republicans to cut Social Security. A significant number of Democrats in Congress also fervently opposed Obama's position on entitlement cuts, and he eventually had to backtrack.


Obama was such a profound disappointment.




https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrew...hrows-in-the-towel-on-social-security-reform/

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

This is it

 

[theBLADE1]

So everyone is politically savvy enough by now to see what this is right?

This is coming out now because neoliberals are trying to use people's Obama nostalgia against Sanders. They are digging DEEP to find something to bury him. It's not gonna work and they don't even understand why…

i think most berniebros have no idea what his platform actually is. and i mean... like, literally no idea (gun bans, companies forced to report their minorities/gays to the govt, forced communism/dilution of all publicly traded companies, red flag laws, etc)

i suspect if his fans knew what he's proposing, a lot of them would disappear.

I'm positive that every Bernie Bro on this website knows more about his policies then you do about any policies AT ALL. Get wrecked.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

I didn’t think it was possible to respect this man more than I did. I was wrong.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

The author of this article got called out on Twitter for burying the lede. The reason that Bernie did this was because Obama and Biden were trying to negotiate a deal with the Republicans to cut Social Security. A significant number of Democrats in Congress also fervently opposed Obama's position on entitlement cuts, and he eventually had to backtrack.







https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrew...hrows-in-the-towel-on-social-security-reform/

Apparently even Feinstein and Hoyer were pissed at the deal Obama and Biden were willing to make.
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/06/joe-biden-poor-peoples-campaign

 

[rob mafia]

I'm positive that every Bernie Bro on this website knows more about his policies then you do about any policies AT ALL.

...so you support forced communism/20% dilution of all publicly traded companies?
companies reporting their minorities/gays to the govt?
red flag laws?
gun bans?

https://berniesanders.com/issues/corporate-accountability-and-democracy/
https://berniesanders.com/issues/gun-safety/

Share Corporate Wealth with Workers. Under this plan, corporations with at least $100 million in annual revenue, corporations with at least $100 million in balance sheet total, and all publicly traded companies will be required to provide at least 2 percent of stock to their workers every year until the company is at least 20 percent owned by employees. This will be done through the issuing of new shares and the establishment of Democratic Employee Ownership Funds.

Diversify Corporations. Under this plan, we will develop rules to diversify corporate boards by ensuring a significant portion of every board be comprised of people from historically underrepresented groups (e.g. marginalized by gender, race, ethnicity, religion, disability or sexuality). And we will require every corporation to complete an annual report that gives the compensation, gender, and racial composition of board and employees.

Get wrecked.

well, that's what bernie's trying to do to the usa...

 

[DivineMind]

...so you support forced communism/20% dilution of all publicly traded companies?
companies reporting their minorities/gays to the govt?
red flag laws?
gun bans?

https://berniesanders.com/issues/corporate-accountability-and-democracy/
https://berniesanders.com/issues/gun-safety/







well, that's what bernie's trying to do to the usa...

If workers had more say in corporate governance it would be a good thing. I like Ron Paul but he's wrong about one thing: the market is pretty ineffective at mitigating / preventing externalities.

Giving workers more ownership might help reduce externalities and reign in ridiculous CEO pay (which is out of control now).

Like many of Bernie's policies, this one isn't new, and is already implemented in some European countries.

 

[MicroBrew]

double

 

[MicroBrew]

...so you support forced communism/20% dilution of all publicly traded companies?
companies reporting their minorities/gays to the govt?
red flag laws?
gun bans?

https://berniesanders.com/issues/corporate-accountability-and-democracy/
https://berniesanders.com/issues/gun-safety/







well, that's what bernie's trying to do to the usa...

You know Unions sit at the Boards of all major companies in Germany. Yet the Germans are still world leaders in high tech products.

If large companies can feed off the public coffers , why shouldn't they be forced to give a portion of their ownership to the workers. Corporations have been milking the taxpayer for far too long, it's about dam time they start giving back. When too large to fail is in danger of failing, it is the tax payer that has to bail them out. Privatized profits and socialized losses, that's how America's big corps have been operating for decades. The government has helped corps innumerably. Wars, fought on the backs of the middle and working class, has sacrificed people, in part for corporate America.