Aspinall played this all wrong

[SuperAlly]

nah the idea that this path was the only thing tom aspinall could have ever done is bollocks.

it could have been handled very differently.

Yeh, should have took those fights UFC didn't offer him

You're a gang of clowns running defence for the duck and nobody is buying it

 

[USA!USA!]

This isn't Tom's fault, it's the UFC's fault. Should have kept it moving when Jones was being a diva.

 

[mkess101]

nah the idea that this path was the only thing tom aspinall could have ever done is bollocks.

it could have been handled very differently.

How? It's one thing to say he should've done something different. But if you make that claim, you need to offer up WHAT he needed to do differently.

Yell and scream more to give him a different opponent? What do you think that would do LMAO? He publicly stated numerous times he'd fight someone else. Throwing a public tantrum demanding a different opponent would've done nothing but create a narrative that Tom was the one ducking Jones.

 

[rear naked ankle pick]

wont read the thread but i know grown ass men are being angry at jones

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

How? It's one thing to say he should've done something different. But if you make that claim, you need to offer up WHAT he needed to do differently.

Yell and scream more to give him a different opponent? What do you think that would do LMAO? He publicly stated numerous times he'd fight someone else. Throwing a public tantrum demanding a different opponent would've done nothing but create a narrative that Tom was the one ducking Jones.

i did. I said Tom could have talked way more shit and he could have fought someone.

Yes, he could have used his platform and publicly trashed the UFC so badly, make them look so stupid that it would force them to do something, either force Jones to fight or retire him. But Aspinall plays goodboy and does nothing.

He could have fought. That could have always happened, given it's been about a year. He could have starched people right now. That would have also helped his negotiations.

I think it's pretty simple, and not far fetched to believe that within this past year, he could have done anything differently to draw more eye balls to this situation.

instead he's doing fuck all and everyone is here pretending his hands were tied by the UFC and he was chained and shackeled and an innocent prisoner aboard the big bad UFC who also was just so damn powerless and without options or haste, that they just couldn't do anything.

it's a dumb strategy to sit and wait over a year in MMA. thats like 5-7 normal years in a career.

but whatever man, go ahead and think that there was just nothing that could have been done.

 

[BowserJr]

I see everyone shitting on Jon & the UFC, which isn't wrong, but everyone is completely letting Tom off the hook.

Instead of begging Jon & trying to lure him into a fight via provocation, he should've stayed active. Last July after winning Tom stated he wouldn't defend his Interim belt anymore. Instead of calling out Jon he should've pretended Jon didn't exist, proclaimed himself as the champ, & called out Gane for December. Then he could've fought Jailton in June, beat them both and have his own legacy created. Or taken out Pereira while his star was peaking.

Instead he wasted part of his prime in a similar manner to Chandler, although Chandler's prime was already gone by the time he waited for Conor.

The UFC is contractually obligated to offer Tom fights, so no they couldn't have willingly kept him on the sideline. It was Tom's choice to wait for Jon and it was a stupid choice.

Tom played himself unless by some miracle the UFC throw $25-$30M at Jon and Jon actually accepts it.

Nah he tried Jones. He beat the supposed GOAT without even throwing a punch lol

 

[Hotora86]

Dumb take. Tom DEFENDED an interim title. That's stupid on its own, but now you want him to defend it multiple times?

 

[mkess101]

i did. I said Tom could have talked way more shit and he could have fought someone.

Yes, he could have used his platform and publicly trashed the UFC so badly, make them look so stupid that it would force them to do something, either force Jones to fight or retire him. But Aspinall plays goodboy and does nothing.

He could have fought. That could have always happened, given it's been about a year. He could have starched people right now. That would have also helped his negotiations.

I think it's pretty simple, and not far fetched to believe that within this past year, he could have done anything differently to draw more eye balls to this situation.

instead he's doing fuck all and everyone is here pretending his hands were tied by the UFC and he was chained and shackeled and an innocent prisoner aboard the big bad UFC who also was just so damn powerless and without options or haste, that they just couldn't do anything.

it's a dumb strategy to sit and wait over a year in MMA. thats like 5-7 normal years in a career.

but whatever man, go ahead and think that there was just nothing that could have been done.

It's because I understand how this organization runs. Publicly trashing them would have made things far worse for him. Your "solution" is fantasy. The multi billion dollar company writes their contracts very much to their own benefit. Shocking, I know. And there's no fighter's union. And the UFC has shown they'll toss aside malcontents and don't give a shit about their ranking or standing within the organization. Because they have the money and power and get to write the narrative.

If you wanna believe that he could just whine enough and get a viable opponent and keep his interim belt and the added pay that comes with it, I can't stop you from believing that. Just realize how naive you sound. Had Aspinall taken your route, they'd just strip his interim title and offer him a garbage fight for less $ than they're likely paying him to sit and wait.

But don't let reality get in the way of a good rant.

 

[Human Bass]

nah the idea that this path was the only thing tom aspinall could have ever done is bollocks.

it could have been handled very differently.

Only if the UFC would have stripped Jones. Makes no sense to have repeated interim title defenses, it is an awful look and Dana, as much he doesnt care anymore, knows.

 

[ShadowRun]

Tom should be active, it's his fault

 

[mkess101]

Tom should be active, it's his fault

Who was he offered that he turned down?

Why let your love of all things Jon Jones allow you to eschew all reason and sanity? It's not a good look, bro. C'mon LOL.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

It's because I understand how this organization runs. Publicly trashing them would have made things far worse for him. Your "solution" is fantasy. The multi billion dollar company writes their contracts very much to their own benefit. Shocking, I know. And there's no fighter's union. And the UFC has shown they'll toss aside malcontents and don't give a shit about their ranking or standing within the organization. Because they have the money and power and get to write the narrative.

If you wanna believe that he could just whine enough and get a viable opponent and keep his interim belt and the added pay that comes with it, I can't stop you from believing that. Just realize how naive you sound. Had Aspinall taken your route, they'd just strip his interim title and offer him a garbage fight for less $ than they're likely paying him to sit and wait.

But don't let reality get in the way of a good rant.

plenty of champions have talked major shit on the UFC, Jones canceled a whole event.

They could have easily done something else vs. nothing.

How does that make sense?

Youre justifying nothing for a year and you think it makes sense.

that's retarded as fuck yo.

good rant? that's hardly a fart bitch.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

Only if the UFC would have stripped Jones. Makes no sense to have repeated interim title defenses, it is an awful look and Dana, as much he doesnt care anymore, knows.

as opposed to waht the fuck this is?

that's retarded. but keep thinking like that.

 

[arcadeperfect]

He's the interim champion with a defense. That alone should qualify for a title shot, no questions asked. The interim title is only supposed to be a temporary one, usually a year max. Tom has also wiped out most of the top 10 via finish. The only fight he can take right now is Gane.

 

[mkess101]

plenty of champions have talked major shit on the UFC, Jones canceled a whole event.

They could have easily done something else vs. nothing.

How does that make sense?

Youre justifying nothing for a year and you think it makes sense.

that's retarded as fuck yo.

good rant? that's hardly a fart bitch.

Fighters get run off or treated shitty when they trash the org. Where have you been for the past 20 years?

"Could have done something else" is just random bullshit. Like what? Whine about needing a fight? Sure, sport.

I'm not "justifying" anything. Nobody wants this thing to have dragged out like it did. But blaming the one entity of the 3 that has the LEAST leverage BY FAR is what's retarded, yo. Anything else I can help you with, bitch?

 

[skylolow]

I see everyone shitting on Jon & the UFC, which isn't wrong, but everyone is completely letting Tom off the hook.

Instead of begging Jon & trying to lure him into a fight via provocation, he should've stayed active. Last July after winning Tom stated he wouldn't defend his Interim belt anymore. Instead of calling out Jon he should've pretended Jon didn't exist, proclaimed himself as the champ, & called out Gane for December. Then he could've fought Jailton in June, beat them both and have his own legacy created. Or taken out Pereira while his star was peaking.

Instead he wasted part of his prime in a similar manner to Chandler, although Chandler's prime was already gone by the time he waited for Conor.

The UFC is contractually obligated to offer Tom fights, so no they couldn't have willingly kept him on the sideline. It was Tom's choice to wait for Jon and it was a stupid choice.

Tom played himself unless by some miracle the UFC throw $25-$30M at Jon and Jon actually accepts it.

Tom wasn't going to risk his biggest pay day by far by fighting Jones. Him beating the contenders at HW isn't going to change the way Jones views him.

Him staying active could've resulted in a loss, major injury, etc. All would then put his big pay day in jeopardy.

 

[Human Bass]

as opposed to waht the fuck this is?

that's retarded. but keep thinking like that.

The fuck this is is thanks to Dana suddenly becoming a submissive bitch towards a sociopath. Dana has all the power yet acts as if he doesnt

 

[Rampage_Jackson]

He's the interim champion with a defense. That alone should qualify for a title shot, no questions asked. The interim title is only supposed to be a temporary one, usually a year max. Tom has also wiped out most of the top 10 via finish. The only fight he can take right now is Gane.

and Gane flat out refused to fight him in 2023 when he was rank squatiting so fuck giving Gane a shot at anything if I'm Tom right now. Eat shit frenchie. not to mention Tom melts Gane within a round like he did the rest of the top 5

 

[fzoid4454]

Tom played his cards right. He did not look like a duck, a fool for talking all that jibberish and not backing it up, and declining $30M just to show up. And the most important part, he did not lose his “legacy” whereas someone else lost all the credibility. Actually, that someone else lost all credibility since getting caught for PEDs not only once but twice. And his fans will continue to stay hugging onto his nuts.

Nobody else turned down $30M just to show up, either, so that's not any kind of accomplishment.

 

[SuperAlly]

Tom should be active, it's his fault

ShadowRun should be riding the short bus, it's his fault