Arthrogenic Muscle Inhibition

Listen funk, Miaou is a respected member of this subforum and is intregal in ensuring this place stays a legitimate resource for S&C information. In other words; he questions the fools who waltz in here with **** in hand spouting out their "opinion." If you have something to contribute it better be available for scrutiny. We take pride in what we have accomplished here in the f13.

I was willing to give you the benfit of the doubt. What can I say I am a nice nurse. But you're being a fucking douchebag.

Everyone who has come here willing to learn and provide solid, scientific based information has found a fantastic place to grow stronger and better themselves as an athlete. Those who don't end up in the Heavies with Naudi!

Please, show me where I started anything with anyone, including you. Any bad attitude I have displayed has ONLY been in response to bad attitude directed at me. What benefit of the doubt have you given me? I have given you the beneift of the doubt, despite the fact that you misrepresent the timeline of bad behavior, I am respectful to you.

You say that I delivered the information wrong, that I acted badly. I deconstructed the whole thread, yet you failed to respond. Why? Because if you're honest, you see that I have only reacted to others, and responded in kind. Including to you.

So you've consistently misrepresented my actions in this thread, and then in your last post you wrote: "which was nothing alpha, I hope to God for your sake." Again, the first salvo is yours, not mine. I respond: "You have a default position, which is to support Miaou. You're a fanboy, nothing alpha there."

Again, why is it ok for you to push at me, but it's not ok for me to push back at you? What the fuck is going on here? Some of you guys have two sets of rules, one for yourselves and one for everyone else.

"If you have something to contribute it better be available for scrutiny." This is laughable, as my OP was a snippet of a study, and a link to the study.
 
Hey, whatsa going on in here ?
 
Use the word "Alpha" one more time and I'm reporting you.
 
Listen funk, Miaou is a respected member of this subforum and is intregal in ensuring this place stays a legitimate resource for S&C information. In other words; he questions the fools who waltz in here with **** in hand spouting out their "opinion." If you have something to contribute it better be available for scrutiny. We take pride in what we have accomplished here in the f13.

I was willing to give you the benfit of the doubt. What can I say I am a nice nurse. But you're being a fucking douchebag.

Everyone who has come here willing to learn and provide solid, scientific based information has found a fantastic place to grow stronger and better themselves as an athlete. Those who don't end up in the Heavies with Naudi!

NK, I agree with Funk. Miaou didn't put his best foot forward. He could've handled that a lot better. He came with an attitude or just a very poor choice of words taking shots at Funk's colleagues. And Funk, I think Nurse might bury the hatchet with you I you can let it go. Miaou is his bud and he's not gonna see the interaction the same.
 
You came in here presented some study and stated some opinions based on nothing more than your "experience." which you still haven't quantified yet. Are you a doctor? A PT?

Had your opinions been backed up by the study, or if you had presented a study that could back up your opinions I would be on your side, or at least I would let go of one of Miaou's nuts.

Miaou was simply engaging the way any academic would when presented with an opinion.

I don't think I have made any negative posts up until you started attacking me. So unless you're willing to support your opinion which you may have done already, but I haven't gone back through the thread, I would stick to what you can prove. It will make you stay here much more enjoyable.
 
NK, I agree with Funk. Miaou didn't put his best foot forward. He could've handled that a lot better. He came with an attitude or just a very poor choice of words taking shots at Funk's colleagues. And Funk, I think Nurse might bury the hatchet with you I you can let it go. Miaou is his bud and he's not gonna see the interaction the same.

Granted I am a little biased here, I will admit that. However I didn't think Miaou's comments were all that bad. He was basically asking for proof with respect to the guy's opinion. Any academic would do the same. Funk became pretty defensive pretty quickly.
 
You came in here presented some study and stated some opinions based on nothing more than your "experience." which you still haven't quantified yet. Are you a doctor? A PT?

Had your opinions been backed up by the study, or if you had presented a study that could back up your opinions I would be on your side, or at least I would let go of one of Miaou's nuts.

Miaou was simply engaging the way any academic would when presented with an opinion.

I don't think I have made any negative posts up until you started attacking me. So unless you're willing to support your opinion which you may have done already, but I haven't gone back through the thread, I would stick to what you can prove. It will make you stay here much more enjoyable.

NK, this stuff is probably not on the web for all to see. These guys want clients to come to them, so there won't be any videos showing how this is done. I've seen this stuff Funk is talking about (or something similar) and it could be an interesting topic.
 
Granted I am a little biased here, I will admit that. However I didn't think Miaou's comments were all that bad. He was basically asking for proof with respect to the guy's opinion. Any academic would do the same. Funk became pretty defensive pretty quickly.

You may be right. You seem cool with me. I've been on Funks end a time or two, so I've seen the routine that goes on here.
 
I have no issues with people posting science. I do however have issue with a statement like this:
Mostly ignored by the medical, fitness, s & c communities
and then saying nothing to clearly defend it other than "its my expeirnece." Experience with what? conversations? Studies? Being a patient? Are you a doctor? PT, OS?

Am I missing something?
 
You may be right. You seem cool with me. I've been on Funks end a time or two, so I've seen the routine that goes on here.

No question. But Rip, when you come into a forum and start giving your opinion on something there has to be scutiny. Otherwise what are we doing here? I, for one am not wasting my time. I am here to learn and to kill time between patients. If I wasn't convinced this was a legitimate place for S&C knowledge I wouldn't spend my days here with these guys. I have enough friends, am wickedly Alpha and I don't need interweb interaction to fill some void in my life.
 
You came in here presented some study and stated some opinions based on nothing more than your "experience." which you still haven't quantified yet. Are you a doctor? A PT?

Had your opinions been backed up by the study, or if you had presented a study that could back up your opinions I would be on your side, or at least I would let go of one of Miaou's nuts.

Miaou was simply engaging the way any academic would when presented with an opinion.

I don't think I have made any negative posts up until you started attacking me. So unless you're willing to support your opinion which you may have done already, but I haven't gone back through the thread, I would stick to what you can prove. It will make you stay here much more enjoyable.

I'm a Muscle Activation Techniques Specialist.

Miaou was not simply engaging the way any academic would. Academics have a decorum of behavior. Miaou was obnoxious, so I pushed back at him. That's reality. I never got defensive, which would imply inappropriately reactive to criticism. What I did was react appropriately to obnoxious comments. You can keep spinning it any way you want, but that's what happened.

How did I start attacking you? You misrepresented the thread and stated:
"If TS had presented this knowledge in a more tactful way this thread would not have produced the awesomeness that is has! Ripskater: I think the issue is how information is presented and not whether we agree or disagree. Had he arrived at a sports medicine conference and did what he did, he'd get far worse treatment."

This is simply wrong, and misrepresents the thread. As such it's pretty inflamatory. So I wrote a long detailed deconstruction of the thread, which except for an inappropriate "fanboy" comment (sorry for that), was completely acceptable. So by responding to your "tactful" comment, me calling you "fanboy" in the middle of a long serious post is "attacking you". And you call me defensive.
 
You called me a Miaou fanboy (which I totally am) and said I wasn't alpha...
 
Those positions for activating VMO is something I have seen before in some MAT techniques. It's probably legit Miaou.

The fact that it is used in MAT doesn't in itself mean it has actual validity. "Energy meridians" are used in acupuncture, "vital energy" used in osteopathy and "subluxation" used in chiropractic, that doesn't mean those concepts have any scientific validity. I am asking for references on a very specific scientific claim that I would like to see supported.

To bias VM the client lies on their back, hip slightly abbucted, full plantarflexion, tibia internally rotated, with the main direction of isometric for going into hip external rotation. For the upper 1/3 of VM the hip and knee are bent with the foot at the level of the opposite knee. For middle 1/3 the foot is at the level of opposite mid-shin. For VMO the foot is at the level of opposite ankle. These positions very directly bias VM and drive simultaneous afferent/efferent communication between the VM and the CNS, which is what’s needed to address AMI.

I am going to ignore the repeated ad hominem attacks towards miaou and ask again:

Can you provide your references for your above statement?

Also, what is your education background, besides being a MAT practitioner?
 
Last edited:
You called me a Miaou fanboy (which I totally am) and said I wasn't alpha...

Right, after you posted: "which was nothing alpha, I hope to God for your sake."

Your post was not a big deal, but it is a shot, no? So I sent a shot back. Why is that so problematic for you? Why can you continuously make demonstrably false statements that I wasn't "tactful" enough or that I presented the information wrong, and take the shot above, but when I push back, it's an outrage? Why should I defer to you?
 
Last edited:
I don't know what you expected from simply posting some article on a forum. Is there tact in that? Maybe I am missing something. Were you trying to show-off? possibly. Were you here to sell something? maybe. We don't know you from a hole in the wall, so dropping some link to a fucking study then posting your opinion without reference raises alarm bells. I would consider this un-tactful.
 
Miaou and NK, some ideas/methods start in the private sector and not at a med school/ physio school. They don't get grants to run research studies. Many people benefit from these types of things when the "educated" and "professionals" could do nothing for them. I've also seen professionals adopt some unproven methods into their profession. But we can't talk about that here? Like I said earlier, It seems like it could be a cool topic to discuss. Too bad it got derailed again.
 
The fact that it is used in MAT doesn't in itself mean it has actual validity. "Energy meridians" are used in acupuncture, "vital energy" used in osteopathy and "subluxation" used in chiropractic, that doesn't mean those concepts have any scientific validity. I am asking for references on a very specific scientific claim that I would like to see supported.
I am going to ignore the repeated ad hominem attacks towards miaou and ask again:
Can you provide your references for your above statement?
Also, what is your education background, besides being a MAT practitioner?

This has got to be the most ridiculous statment in the thread. You were obnoxious and I called you on it. You pushed at me and I pushed back at you. Sort of funny that you post obnoxiously and then play victim.

Regarding the rest of it, I made no very specific scientific claim. You are living in non-reality.

I said:
"In my opinion the single biggest factor in loss of physical function, performance, strength, ROM, and biggest single causal factor in breakdown, injury, inability to recover from injury. Mostly ignored by the medical, fitness, s & c communities.

When someone prefaces a statement with "In my opinion", it means that it's their OPINION. Which is another way of saying, "I am not making a very specific scientific claim, but based on science and my experience, I believe this to be true."

I'm sorry that you misread "In my opinion" to mean "I am making a very specific scientific claim".
 
In my opinion all crossfitters are douchebag hipsters. But this is just from my experience.

Do you think if I posted that in CF forum people would agree with me or would they ask for proof? Or would they fucking rag on me until I left?
 
Back
Top