Hi guys, I just watched Rumina Sato's loss to Pequeno Noguiera and saw a clip of Jeremy Horn subbing David "the Crow" Loiseau last week prior to UFC 54. Both Noguiera and Horn tapped their opponents very quickly with a guillotine with the arm in (like Pete Sell did to Baroni, but in under 10 seconds). Bas always says that a guillotine with the arm in is not dangerous (and I have never had to tap to one) but apparently it is if you know how to do it right. So, anyone have any advice on how to make a guillotine work with the arm in? Is there a special grip you have to use or bend your body a certain way? Also, interestingly enough, both Horn and Nog tapped their opponents with the arm in guillotine from a standing guard pull (what Stephen Quadros calls the "Koala bear position"). Is this at all important? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!