Are you going to deny DJ p4p GOAT status if he defeats TJ?

[migeru29]

Or they are going to keep saying that: 1. A person his size can't be pound for pound goat or 2. They will demand him to fight the LW champ? 3. any other excuse?

 

[Sonny Qc]

He's already in the top 5 of GOAT's

Beating TJ would put him at #2 for me.

He could very well become #1 tbh.

 

[Calipwnia]

He really did dominate 125 but if TJ can make 125 then he needs to win that fight. Hard to deny at that point but people are impressed when fighters take some risk and go up 10 pounds. Try to fight someone a little bigger DJ!

 

[WinZip]

Try to fight someone a little bigger DJ!

You do realize he used to fight at BW and got a title shot, right? I mean I know you'll hate on him no matter what he does, but at least try to get your facts straight.

 

[BADodd06]

You do realize he used to fight at BW and got a title shot, right? I mean I know you'll hate on him no matter what he does, but at least try to get your facts straight.

C'mon now, you can't expect goalpost movers to also be logical individuals

 

[Calipwnia]

You do realize he used to fight at BW and got a title shot, right? I mean I know you'll hate on him no matter what he does, but at least try to get your facts straight.

I do know he lost to Cruz, yes. Perhaps he has improved since then. Doesn't mean I hate him or will hate him. I actually like him you drama queen. When they made the division of flyweight for DJ he hasn't been challenged once. Jesus Christ though you are a snippy one!

 

[peterparker66]

He would definitely be close just behind GSP atm IMO but if he wins the BW belt and defends it a couple of time or really at least once I would put him as GOAT

 

[Bend NvR Break]

Still don't understand why this fight is happening at 125 and not at 135 for the BW title.

TJ is ducking Jimmie Rivera hard.

 

[Y'all Musta Forgot]

Or they are going to keep saying that: 1. A person his size can't be pound for pound goat or 2. They will demand him to fight the LW champ? 3. any other excuse?

Dj number one is laughable! Woodley is more deserving than lil DJ

 

[chitoortiz]

I can't put him as the GOAT when he has title defenses like:

Chris Cariaso
Ali Bagautinov
Wilson Reis
Tim Elliott
Ray Borg
John Moraga

I like MM, he's obviously the GOAT FLW. But that's as far as I'm willing to go.

 

[VVarhead]

Still don't understand why this fight is happening at 125 and not at 135 for the BW title.

TJ is ducking Jimmie Rivera hard.

Rivera is the biggest duck in the division.
Declined fights with Moraes, Sterling and Vera.

And then he complained about not getting fights, lmao.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

Rivera is the biggest duck in the division.
Declined fights with Moraes, Sterling and Vera.

And then he complained about not getting fights, lmao.

The man was suppose to fight cruz. Not someone lower ranked than him. Cruz, TJ, Assuncao and Cody are the only fighters that make sense for Jimmie to fight.

 

[VVarhead]

The man was suppose to fight cruz. Not someone lower ranked than him. Cruz, TJ, Assuncao and Cody are the only fighters that make sense for Jimmie to fight.

I know, but still. He's not the #1 Contender yet, he has to keep fighting. If he beats Moraes people would see him as the #1 Contender, for sure.

Cruz is injured anyway and Assuncao isn't getting a title shot from Dana White, lol.

 

[chinarice]

I can't put him as the GOAT when he has title defenses like:

Chris Cariaso
Ali Bagautinov
Wilson Reis
Tim Elliott
Ray Borg
John Moraga

I like MM, he's obviously the GOAT FLW. But that's as far as I'm willing to go.

Bro, those guys are A+ fighters. Same level as Hughes, Henderson, DC, etc.

If DJ weighed 260 lbs and was 6'4 and kept all his speed and skills, Stipe would lose, bro!

Fuck, p4p is the lamest shit in combat sports.

 

[Magx951]

I can't put him as the GOAT when he has title defenses like:

Chris Cariaso
Ali Bagautinov
Wilson Reis
Tim Elliott
Ray Borg
John Moraga

I like MM, he's obviously the GOAT FLW. But that's as far as I'm willing to go.

This.

His streak and skills are CLEARLY world class level, but its hard to call somebody p4p of anything when there's no real way to vouch for their competition. It's a division that isn't developed much yet.

For me It'll stay GSP #1, Fedor #2 and Aldo at #3

 

[Sakuraba7]

If he bests TJ i will legit consider him A GOAT but not THE GOAT p4p.


I can't take that idea seriously. A flyweight cannot be a p4p GOAT when his competition is small from the get-go regardless of how impressive he beat them, even if a couple of those flys moved down from BW like TJ (because the competition at Fly was just that small).


A p4p GOAT to me would be someone between FW and WW where there is larger competition and thus dominating in said divisions legit means you're a P4P best.

 

[Flboycanscrap2]

Those haters will always struggle with the fact that a 5'3 man could ruin their entire lives in a physical confrontation.

 

[ConditFan]

P4p or Goat?

It' 2 different things

 

[OriginMMA]

The same people who call Fedor goat should not be saying MM is not in goat contention. Both fought some damn good people but some low tier ones as well.

People like to bring up the whole former champ bullshit but the reality is MM didn’t give that opportunity to anyone else because he is the first and ONLY flyweight champ.

 

[WinZip]

I do know he lost to Cruz, yes. Perhaps he has improved since then. Doesn't mean I hate him or will hate him. I actually like him you drama queen. When they made the division of flyweight for DJ he hasn't been challenged once. Jesus Christ though you are a snippy one!

Hasn't been challenged once, but fought to a draw with Uncle Creepy. Yeah, alright.

He has definitely gotten better. It isn't even arguable.