Are we overly impressed by first round finishes?

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  1. Dreyga2000 Always Rooting for the Black Guy

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    I feel this has become a pattern. New prospect comes up. He gets some quick finishes. They get hyped as the next MMA prodigy. Then they get derailed as a brutal fashion.

    Walker, Shabazyan, Barber, Gillespie

    Finishes are cool but they aren’t always reflective of a fully rounded game? Maybe we are too easily impressed?
     
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  2. Istryker Brown Belt

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    Yeah but this isn’t just an MMA issue this type of shit also happens in boxing where people cream themselves over fast finishers
     
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  3. tony pepperoni Orange Belt

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    winning a fight in 30 seconds doesn't mean shit.

    good for the highlight reel but not for the overall development as a fighter
     
  4. Peli Purple Belt

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    Yes.

    I feel that way about all the prospects until we see them tested, we cant really make much out of it.
     
  5. PlayTheGame Brown Belt

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    Yep. True GOAT material fighters are not afraid to play with their food and test their cardio a bit.

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  6. SKYNET Madrugada Eterna Platinum Member

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    Brunson has a few first round L's too. Wasn't like that wasn't a part of the thought process
     
  7. powerpuncher White Belt

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    To much better fighters than Edmond Jr
     
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  8. Kung Fu Kowboy Khamzatdog Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    *exciting, fun to watch... sure. But funny when Khamzat (example) smeshes a top 500 fighter and now is Khabib 2.0... just makes the hype train crash so much harder...
     
  9. Arkham's Notorious Geyser Getting KO'ed with the BOIIIIS

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    There's nothing wrong with getting hyped about first round finishes, they're exciting and can make any Fight Night feel that much more alive, but the problem is people don't come off that high, and forget to exercise caution and hopeful optimism. Some people see a string of first round KO's and their minds go OFF to the races before said fighter faces any real adversity.

    A fight only becomes a fight when you have something to overcome, and without struggle there is no growth. You can't go swimming and not get wet, first round finishes are like jumping into the pool, and getting right out, it can feel nice yes, but there's more to the water than quick splashes.
     
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  10. The Chosen Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    Everyone’s chasing Jon Jones. Like the Bobby Fischer of MMA
     
  11. Dave4TheHorde Blue Belt

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    First round finishes are fun to watch, but all it shows about a fighter is that he has the capability to pull off a quick finish. It shows nothing about their stamina, heart, or ability to adapt.
     
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    just saying it works both ways. Brunson getting KO'd in the first round isn't something new
     
  13. JohnnyDeeep White Belt

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    Walker is one 360 spinning heel kick in the first round away from being the man to officially retire Jones.
     
  14. Stormtrooper85 Black Belt

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    Houston Alexander is for real.
    Ngannou got that title fight after KOing the two most knocked out Heavyweights

    It never stops
     
  15. Substance Abuse Plutonium Belt Platinum Member

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    Anyone with a brain is tempered with this stuff. Khamzat will lose. That doesn't mean he sucks.
     
  16. Arlo Brown Belt

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    Yeah, too much weight gets put on it as a quality ... I'm guilty
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    gillespie isnt really a great example

    he was dominating guys bell to bell and hadnt had too many finishes before he fought yancy IIRC
     
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    Stamina is always the question I ask when it comes to prospects who have never gone the distance. The amount of adrenaline and anxiety during any sort of performance is going to zap a considerable amount of your stamina to begin with.
     
  19. DonQ94 Orange Belt

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    Definitely, I feel like you can only get a good feel for a prospect after they have gone through some adversity and shown their cardio.
     
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