Are These Fighters Legends or Not? (Poll #11)

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  1. NHB7

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    This poll thread is related to this thread: http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/...egend-2898905/

    And there will be several more poll threads related to that thread in the not too distant future.

    To see poll 1 go here: http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/...l-1-a-2898981/

    To see poll 2 go here: http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/...l-2-a-2899145/

    To See Poll 3 go here: http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/...l-3-a-2899407/

    To See Poll 4 go here: http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/...l-4-a-2899567/

    To See Poll 5 go here: http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/...l-5-a-2900209/

    To See Poll 6 go here: http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/...l-6-a-2900999/

    To see Poll 7 go here: http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/...l-7-a-2901133/

    To See Poll 8 go here: http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/...l-8-a-2901197/

    To See Poll 9 go here: http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/...l-9-a-2903901/

    To See Poll 10 go here: http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/showthread.php?p=102131181#post102131181

    Frequently Asked Question:

    NHB7, why don't you rather than put five people asking yes or no, put 10 people and just say vote for the on you think is a legend?

    Answer: Because of the way Sherdog polls work. Let me provide those interested with an example. Imagine I had a poll and all it asked was Do you think either of these fighters are legends? And I listed two people. One person was Gina Carano and the other person was Matt Mitrione. Now If I just listed there names and said, "Vote for them if you think they are legends and just don't vote if you don't think they are legends" here is what might happen. 100 people might enter the thread and of those 100 people 6 people vote because 6 people believe that both Carano and Mitrione are legends. But the poll doesn't count those people who came in and said, "No, they aren't legends, so I won't vote." So what ends up happening is the final conclusion of the poll is "Out of 6 votes, 6 people agree that Gina and Matt are legends. In other words, 100% of people believe Matt and Gina are legends." When in reality, only 6% of people believe that they are legends. So the only way to get to that number is to provide those people that believe they are not a legend to also have a vote. In other words, 6 people vote they are, and 94 people vote that they are not.
     
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  3. NHB7

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    No on Jeremy Horn
    Yes on Kazuo, but just barely making the grade in my book.
    Yes on Kid, perhaps the biggest legend of these 5 options.
    No on Kimo
    Yes on Kiyoshi.

    I picked all the Japanese guys! I swear its not a Japanese bias, this just happens to be a poll of some of the greatest!
     
  4. Jermei

    Jermei Steel Belt Platinum Member

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    Jeremy Horn is legendary for fighting everyone and is very respected.
     
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    Nope. Only heard of the Kid and he's not.
     
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    Gregolian .45 ACP Platinum Member

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    Horn yes. Kid unfortunately got derailed by injuries. Misaki is borderline. Leopold lol. KT's head should be a legend for all the beatings it's taken.
     
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    Horn is a legend no doubt. He went ninety-odd fights before his first KO loss. Subbed Chuck. Went three rounds with Anderson. Took Chael's soul. Fought anyone, anytime, anywhere.

    I see a lot of votes for Kid, tell me why he's a legend.
     
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    I've got him similar to a Tito Ortiz or a Ken Shamrock. Their actual in-the-cage/ring resumes don't hold up that well to scrutiny, especially in hindsight, but all three basically single-handedly propped up a major MMA promotion for a while, and more importantly, all three were superstars with legitimate crossover appeal and undoubtedly the inspiration for countless young fighters to get into the sport. I'd also give Kid a bit of a nod for, along with BJ Penn, being a pioneer in beating up guys with elite skills way bigger than him. He's probably still one of the all-time P4P GOATs, thought we'll never know for sure because that injury took him out just when his weight class was starting to become a fixture.
     
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    Jeremy Horn should be a legend. He was much more than just some guy that fought a lot.
     
  10. NHB7

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    Trying to get at least 100 votes on each poll
     
  11. leatherneck

    leatherneck if not 4 disappointments, id have no appointments

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    trying to get 100 votes, or 100 polls?

    here's the thing:

    I don't think in 20 yrs you can have a legend a year. so if you were a bit more selective it would be great.

    enjoy participating in the polls, and I am to try and keep these fighters in perspective as they fought in my fave era.

    but 90% of them aren't legends.
     
  12. Te Huna Matata

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    Kid and Horn

    Kid was a guy who was dominating 155ers while being a natural 135er. He had no legitimate losses until Joe Warren how many years into his career. Horn fought a who's who, had a retarded number of fights, and had a legendary chin.
     
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    leatherneck if not 4 disappointments, id have no appointments

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    not really, no.

    what 3 "legendaryf fights" do you recall that he was in?
     
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    Only said yes to Kid on this one, but roughly.
     

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