- Joined
- Jan 17, 2010
- Messages
- 4,490
- Reaction score
- 5,431
- See. That is actually a good come-back.
- He knows the rules and plays with the rule book under his arms.
Are there legitimate takedown techniques in BJJ that work on anybody?
- Thread starter spacetime
- Start date
- See. That is actually a good come-back.
- He knows the rules and plays with the rule book under his arms.
Yeah... Why would you put your money on the practitioner who's had no clinch training at all and at worst no throws trained either...
- Joined
- Jul 9, 2013
- Messages
- 17,757
- Reaction score
- 4,362
I think alot of times grapplers pass off striking as nothing, and assume mental toughness will carry through; but thats not true. It happens only with a small minority of people, and even then they usually have competitive exp (MT fights/exibitions). Its good to have fiath in your training, but don't be ignorant about it. I've seen first hand at ammy MMA where purebred grapplers that have 1-2 camps worth of rudimentary striking get shut down badly by a good striker with okay TDD, and it was hard to watch.
- Joined
- Aug 3, 2015
- Messages
- 6,963
- Reaction score
- 0
It's amazing how this guy not only manages to have the longest threads in the grappling forum despite blatant trolling, but also that he hasn't been banned. This must be a mod's troll account.
- Joined
- Dec 19, 2013
- Messages
- 5,258
- Reaction score
- 437
The worst type of scum
You realise that Bjj is judo!
Let say that I create my own Bjj training program: curriculum.
In fact I just completed it yesterday.
We have 6-8 throws taught this semester one.
Each throw will taught by using its judo name and taught by a kodokan shodan.
Each throw has been chosen to pair with the topic of the week. Just like you match a type of wine to a meal.
For ecample , osoto gari will be taught during the knee on the belly we cover.
So that 2 week of osoto gari for semester one.
No, BJJ is jujitsu, which Judo and BJJ are styles of. If BJJ was Brazilian Judo, throws would be an integral part of the art.
No, I asked a question as a layman. I don't know. I don't practice the art. Is that so hard to understand? I know this isn't the science forum but I would expect more brain power than this..
Judo throws are used in bjj and taught because it is judo. Lol.
There is no Bjj throws of such. Lol
The reason why lot of Bjj players do not spar tachiwaza and learn Judo throws is because they don't like stand up.
As soonest some brasilians bb has some good tachiwaza skills. It is often assumed that he had to go cross train in judo or wrestling but that does necessarily have to be the case.
My friend went to a gym that had an internal Bjj Comp. And no one pulled guard. That was refreshing.
Last edited:
They are integrap part of the art.
The fact that throws are not taught in some gyms just shows poor curriculum.
Just like some gyms don't do self defense.
Bjj as an art is not uniform acrross gyms (even within a so called affiliation program where everyone is supposed to teach the same program)
- Joined
- Jan 8, 2014
- Messages
- 6,107
- Reaction score
- 629
What's the point of trolling a forum with stupid hypothetical questions?
- Joined
- Jan 18, 2004
- Messages
- 4,564
- Reaction score
- 0
The Gracie stomp.
- Joined
- Jan 8, 2014
- Messages
- 6,107
- Reaction score
- 629
If you treat bjj as a sport (as I believe you should) most judo throws aren't really a good investment in terms of getting good results in competitions.
I agree.
A throw is just 2 points.
Not really worth the time to learn as you can just pull guard and sweep for the same of amount of points.
It would now become a topic of sport vs self defense.
The problem is Bjj guys are complecent in their stand up skills due to their sport fascination.
They rarely do stand up or train with strikes but yet they are super confident they could "hang" if required.
Is it not just blind faith,,?
- Joined
- Oct 4, 2010
- Messages
- 1,072
- Reaction score
- 0
My biggest problem with standup in BJJ class isn't the lack of frequency or emphasis in technique choice, it's the fact that at least half of your training partners are guaranteed to stiff arm and stall the entire round until you do something silly, grind them out, or pull guard. It's always the guys with abysmal guards too. A stunning number of casual practitioners over a certain size don't want to do takedowns or guardwork, but instead seem to only want to engage if they can somehow magically teleport into top position.
- Joined
- Sep 4, 2008
- Messages
- 5,948
- Reaction score
- 357
- Joined
- Jan 8, 2014
- Messages
- 6,107
- Reaction score
- 629
You don't look cool if your opponent pulls guard.
Usually in a bjj competition not a lot of the better people want to play judo with you.
Top guard is not a particularly dominant position.
Last edited:
- Joined
- Mar 24, 2011
- Messages
- 7,455
- Reaction score
- 1,283
If your reversals from bottom are essentially the same as your takedowns from neutral, then yes.
