What glove out there has stood the test of time? I'm talking about the Winning-inspired, imitations, replica's, etc? For a professional boxer who needs to know he's getting the same thing every single time, Winning is the gold standard. I know they've changed their design a few times, but for the most part it's been uniform.
As stated in my response, Winning has been the standard for years, but upstarts have made huge strides. Top Boxer and UMA are in their infancy, so it's impossible for them to have created any long term standard. By what I've seen and used of each so far, I would not be surprised to see them produce incredibly high quality gloves for years to come. TB has even broken through to some of the premier MMA fighters on the planet, so people in the industry are taking notice. When guys like Cowboy Cerrone and Jon Jones are using your gloves, you're obviously doing something very, very right.
Every other "similar product" manufacturer has seen fluctuations in quality. Almost everyone here was singing R2C's praises, Triumph United's Heatseeker's praises, and a number of other brands. They have all either stopped manufacturing the exact glove that was praised, or their quality has decreased drastically. R2C's Japanese gloves, the last time I checked, were very different and pretty horrible. I have a beautiful pair of custom 18 oz UMA gloves. They are great in term of stitching and colors, but the feel is not the same, and the shape is a little off due to the leather being pulled at a slightly off angle. UMA seems great and I hope they keep it up honestly, but I have my doubts.
I have never used R2C Japanese inspired gloves or the OG heatseekers, so I cannot and have not spoken of their quality. I understand they received some serious praise here, but it wasn't from this guy
However, none of them are better than Winning, in terms of consistency, quality, and reputation. They are an in house brand with their gloves. They don't advertise and they don't need to. For the true professional, there is no real other alternative.
Consistency? Sure, I'll give you that. Same glove, every single time. Quality? Top notch, but again boutique gloves like TB and UMA offer comparable products, and in some ways (namely, wrist protection on the velcro models) are superior. Reputation isn't up for debate, but you're comparing a company that has been around for decades compared to companies that have been around for a year or two. You're also comparing a multi-million dollar corporation to single individuals, so I just don't think it's apples to apples.
Winning USA has the 16 oz gloves listed at $270. Custom UMA gloves are $130 USD. That's not a fourth of the price. Custom Winnings are 30% more, so I could see the comparison is closer there, but honestly custom is not that important to a serious pro.
Stock gloves to stock gloves, you're talking $270 for Winning and $80-$90 depending on model for UMA's. So my apologies, only a 1/3 of the price. Custom, $350 to $130, so still about 3-1 price wise. As far as pros not caring about custom, that's certainly up for debate. A vast majority of high level pros are often seen with custom gloves, but that's unimportant to the conversation IMO.
Also, it's a shame that the 16 oz don't fit you well. Have you tried the 12 or 14 oz gloves?
I sold my last pair of 16's I owned to you, but yeah, I've used some other models. My brother has custom 10's with extra wide velcro, and they're very solid gloves.
Anyway, To get back to the question in the OP:
What's my issue with Winnings? You can buy gloves for a fraction of the price that do some things better than Winnings. If you're interested in buying velcro gloves, Winning has some of the lowest reviewed wrist protection around.
I make part of my livelihood owning and operating a boxing club. It's incredibly important for me to understand the quality and functionality of boxing products. For me personally, I'll be giving my cash to UMA instead of Winning because they offer a comparable product (and again, as I've stated before, objectively superior in regards to their velcro models) for a much cheaper price. I don't care about the name on the back of the glove, I care about how well they function for the price.
Winning gloves are are outstanding, but their price to product ratio doesn't blow my skirt up.