Are the Wachowskis DONE?

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shadow_priest_x said:
The Fifth Element is great
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I dunno. It had a few upsides, but overall I thought it was corny and ridiculous. But either way you won't make a good movie by plagiarizing another. And there are a number of thematic similarities. Both FE and JA revolve around a Chosen One-plot device, where a person is destined to save earth. And there's a superhuman warrior bodyguard character (Leeloo in FE, Tatum in JA), and a wealthy industrialist/despot out to hurt them (Balem/Zorg), et cetera. There's even a blue-collar theme being reused - both Corben Dallas and Jupiter Jones are ordinary working slobs. I could go on, but I'm too tired to write coherently at the moment. Going to bed right about now.
 
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Halge said:
I dunno. It had a few upsides, but overall I thought it was corny and ridiculous. But either way you won't make a good movie by plagiarizing another. And there are a number of thematic similarities. Both FE and JA revolve around a Chosen One-plot device, where a person is destined to save earth. And there's a superhuman warrior bodyguard character (Leeloo in FE, Tatum in JA), and a wealthy industrialist/despot out to hurt them (Balem/Zorg), et cetera. There's even a blue-collar theme being reused - both Corben Dallas and Jupiter Jones are ordinary working slobs. I could go on, but I'm too tired to write coherently at the moment. Going to bed right about now.
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That's interesting. I'll have to keep all this in mind when I go see Jupiter, which I intend to do despite the generally poor reviews.
 
this movie just looks terrible which is sad considering the potential they have to make a great epic movie and no this isn't it for them just a little bump in the road.
 
tendersurrender said:
this movie just looks terrible which is sad considering the potential they have to make a great epic movie and no this isn't it for them just a little bump in the road.
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I don't think it looks terrible, but the whole YA feel of the trailer is off-putting to me. I'd rather see something more mature, like the Matrix was. Cloud Atlas was very mature, but I'm thinking along the lines of sci-fi since this is a sci-fi movie.
 
channing tatum looks ridiculous with that goatee shit and the ears


like him as an actor but wtf is this shit lol
 
Inigo Montoya said:
I heard that Eddie Redmayne is terrible in this.

And The Fifth Element is a fun movie.
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FifthElement is real cool up until Tucker becomes front and center and hams shit up. I love Rush Hour and Tucker's antics in it but for some reason I found him irritating as hell in the Fifth Element. Rest of the movie is quality though.

Willis is like a sci if kingpin when you think about it. Looper and 12 Monkeys are two of the best sci if films of the past twenty years and two of the best time travel themed films period.

Fifth Element is fun and even Surrogates was pretty good in my opinion.
 
shadow_priest_x said:
I liked him in Magic Mike and White House Down. Neither of those are comedies.
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Are we all going to pretend like a grown man didn't admit to watching a movie about male strippers directed 100% at a female audience?
 
Some interesting comments here:


For the Wachowskis, "Jupiter Ascending" isn't just another sci-fi flick. It's also an opportunity to stand up for fresh material at a time when studios are keener to greenlight sequels, reboots and adaptations. (Andy called the possibility of returning to "The Matrix" a "particularly repelling idea in these times.") It's yet another subject where the duo is united.

"The cultural obsession with equating a movie's success to its box office is incredibly damning to this industry," said Andy. "It's pushing the industry more and more to making pure product, which is another reason why you constantly have reboots. It's McDonald's. People know what they're going to sit down and watch. Inherently, it's unhealthy for your brain."
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http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/02/03/us/ap-us-film-jupiter-ascending.html?_r=0
 
shadow_priest_x said:
This is a common misconception about M. Night and I have no idea how the rumor got started. Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, Signs and The Village are all great. Hell, I even enjoyed The Happening.
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It's not a misconception so much as it's that most people hated Unbreakable and The Village, and many hated Sings as well

The Sixth Sense is just about the only film of his that is a consensus good movie
 
auger38 said:
Are we all going to pretend like a grown man didn't admit to watching a movie about male strippers directed 100% at a female audience?
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Of course I watched it. Have you seen this piece of beefcake?


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chickenluver said:
It's not a misconception so much as it's that most people hated Unbreakable and The Village, and many hated Sings as well

The Sixth Sense is just about the only film of his that is a consensus good movie
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most people hated unbreakable? according to Rotten tomatoes 77% liked it! that was decent.. Signs was a certified fresh movie on Rotten Tomatoes!
 
ufcfan4 said:
Fifth Element is fun and even Surrogates was pretty good in my opinion.
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Surrogates was better than it was given credit for, I think. It just kind of came and went but it was actually pretty interesting.
 
shadow_priest_x said:
This is a common misconception about M. Night and I have no idea how the rumor got started. Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, Signs and The Village are all great. Hell, I even enjoyed The Happening.
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Unbreakable is a great film.
 
They are still way in the black over their career. A lot of the movies pointed out that were bad nearly or barely broke even. Cloud Atlas made slightly more at the box office than its budget. I don't know what the studio's cut from the box office is compared to the budget but that was a movie that really could have bombed though I thought it was an incredible movie. V is for Vendetta I thought was awesome. The Invasion wasn't a bad remake of The Body Snatchers. Speed Racer wasn't bad. They are talented and try to make different movies which I have to give them credit. They have talent but they kill their budgets on special effects. This though I don't think is a problem for just them. I think that Hollywood has gotten lazy and puts out remakes and movies with blockbuster special effects because they bring a predictable return. I would be hard pressed to recall the plots any of the Michael Bay Transformer movies. A movie can look good without killing the budget with special effects. The Matrix was a cheap sc-fi movie. Dredd, Sunshine, Solaris, Blade Runner, 12 Monkeys, Baron Muchausen, The Zero Theorem (This is a beautiful Terry Gilliam movie made on the budget of a few episodes of Game of Thrones) and the Thing are all good looking and relatively cheap compared to movies now days. In engineering, any engineer can make a car to a specific specification. A good engineer can make a car to that specification and know the give and takes to stay in budget. A director needs to know what kind of give and takes need to be made to stay within budget. Terry Gilliam once said that the feel and visual style of his movies is something that comes from the struggle to fit his vision to constraints. There is a phrase for this that I can't remember but it basically is that art comes from the struggle of having to work with an imperfect medium. Any director that can't control his budget has no imagination and should be left to writing scripts.

The worst thing that I think that has happened to hollywood is the overuse of CGI. It is lazy and expensive rarely looks good because it is always rushed. Jurassic Park looks good even to this day because the CGI guys were given all the time in the world to make it look right. I am glad at least guys lie del Toro get that prosthetic and puppetry look better most of the time compared to CGI. CGI has its place but I think it is overused just do to the fact that people believe that you can use it to create anything. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
 
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shadow_priest_x said:
This is a common misconception about M. Night and I have no idea how the rumor got started. Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, Signs and The Village are all great. Hell, I even enjoyed The Happening.
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OK well in the OP you seem to be very concerned about opinions and reviews..

The Happening has 17% on rotten tomatoes and is well past hated, considered a joke by most. Just FYI
 
Matrix is in my top 10 movies of all time and has a special place in my heart so I'd be perfectly fine if they never came back huge as they'll always have that.

But I have to agree Cloud Atlas was fantastic. I wonder why it was so off when it came to popularity? :(

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oh Yeah for that one guy who likes Magic Mike, there's a sequel coming out that has that huge True blood actor as a character named Big Dick somethin. Just letting you know mayn
 
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