1. The official Sherdog Store is back! Check it out! » Discuss it here! »

Are the UFC going to sell Werdum/Cain based on Altitude?

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by opponent, Aug 13, 2015.

  1. opponent Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2009
    Messages:
    4,834
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    www
    On Cain being out of shape?

    At high altitude?

    Rusty?

    "Here is a champion who can be anyone in the world on any given day, who is the baddest man on the planet. But was out for too long, got rusty and fought at high altitude. I can't wait for this fight." - Rogan
     
  2. Tamriel Terror Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2014
    Messages:
    10,841
    Likes Received:
    0
    if they can sell bethe vs ronda and ronda vs tate III they can sell anything
     
  3. MestizoIV Milk Steak Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    5,491
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    the Dark Place in GSP's Head
    of course, they cant tell the truth and say that they really jus want a Mexican champ
     
  4. Cro Cop Is Back Red Belt

    Joined:
    May 21, 2007
    Messages:
    9,469
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Sherdog
    Sea level Cain by TKO
     
  5. mangokush Black Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2012
    Messages:
    5,350
    Likes Received:
    449
    Werdum will be viewed as the heel that took Cain's belt and his pride in front of Cain's supposed home crowd.

    The UFC will really pour on how long Cain was out for the injuries and then will portray with some low budget CGI on how the evil "altitude" cost him the fight.

    Will also play the "redemption" card.
     
  6. Headkicktoleg Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2014
    Messages:
    39,403
    Likes Received:
    6,378
    Location:
    Raleigh, NC
    It's al they have. Cain was bested in all aspects of mma
     
  7. BBMN Pancakes?!

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2009
    Messages:
    8,707
    Likes Received:
    313
    Well they were like 7000' up. He clearly hasn't had cardio issues in the past, and he was coming of a very long layoff.

    Didn't half a dozen fighters puke that evening after they fought? They should never over do a high altitude card again.

    Reminded me of when they went to Abu Dhabi... "Well we're in a dessert, guys.... might be a bit hot in the cage. Good luck!"
     
  8. FlowWithTheGo23 Black Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2010
    Messages:
    6,674
    Likes Received:
    0
    They'll market it like how they marketed Cain-JDS 3 (He had rhabdo from overtraining).
     
  9. KhabibTheBeagle Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2014
    Messages:
    12,306
    Likes Received:
    6
    Spot on. They're going to have to grasp at straws to sell this rematch as legitimate.
     
  10. opponent Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2009
    Messages:
    4,834
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    www
    They don't care about the people who care about the legitimacy of the sport.

    Because we stay anyway.

    Just Bleed!!!
     
  11. Tooth and Nail Forever Brocktober

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2006
    Messages:
    30,629
    Likes Received:
    5
    Location:
    In your face.
    Unfortunately that's not the case.

    Ronda is an extremely unique situation.
     
  12. Bagatur Red Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2006
    Messages:
    7,967
    Likes Received:
    56
    Location:
    DE
    hasnt had cardio issues before? the majority of his fights ended in the 1st round. this cardio machine Cain myth was started and perpetuated by Rogan and UFC after his second fight with JDS, who really didnt make Cain work too hard.
     
  13. BBMN Pancakes?!

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2009
    Messages:
    8,707
    Likes Received:
    313
    So you're saying he has always had bad cardio? He's had several fights that went well past the first round, and he didn't gas in those. And now he can barely throw strikes at like 50% speed in the third, and this is normal..?

    And all those other fighters that gassed that night as well have bad cardio too?

    That's.... interesting.
     
  14. lorenzofertatta Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2015
    Messages:
    2,018
    Likes Received:
    21
    Virtually undefeated is Cain at c level, joe!
     
  15. KhabibTheBeagle Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2014
    Messages:
    12,306
    Likes Received:
    6
    "That's right, Mike. We will see a different Cain tonight, at sea-level. He will be more physically strong, and he will hurt him, Mike. It's gonna' have to be deep and tight to finish him tonight, Mike".
     
  16. BBMN Pancakes?!

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2009
    Messages:
    8,707
    Likes Received:
    313
    UFC 188 broke the record for most fighters puking after fights...

    http://www.mmamania.com/2015/6/14/8...ord-for-most-fighters-puking-after-fights-mma

    "[Werdum] looked unbelievable. He came into this fight with a great game plan. He went up [to train] into higher elevation than Mexico City. People think Denver, Colo., is a tough place to fight. This is a tough place to fight. I think we broke the record for guys puking in the back -- like six guys threw up after their fights. This altitude kills you here."
     
  17. xP Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2010
    Messages:
    11,760
    Likes Received:
    1,625
    The rust was a real issue. The altitude is straight up bullshit. It just makes Werdum the better fighter.

    What if he trains in mexico at altitude again? His conditioning will still be excellent. Will people try to use this to discredit him? "Get that fucking goof out of the mountains!" - Dana.

    How many of those fights did he get the shit kicked out of him in, though? 0
    How many of those could he not take down his opponent? Also 0

    Your conditioning is a lot stronger when you're winning. I'm not saying Cain's conditioning is bad, it's great. His gas tank was just one variable in the loss.
     
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2015
  18. opponent Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2009
    Messages:
    4,834
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    www
    They should rematch the entire event then.
     
  19. r-harper-1 Yellow Card Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2008
    Messages:
    13,671
    Likes Received:
    1,841
    Location:
    Kentville Nova Scotia
    They will sell it based on Cains " Brown pride" tattoo
     
  20. ALAN PARTRIDGE NO LONGER REGISTERED

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2012
    Messages:
    32,560
    Likes Received:
    658
    Location:
    NO LONGER REGISTERED
    i don't think they'll choose that angle
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.