Are relentless punches the key to beat Jones? (Cain)

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  1. Charlitos1988

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    Cormier himself was big in the 2nd round eating some Jones punches and elbows but countering with big punches at middle distance and uppercuts from the clinch.

    Thing is... He gassed then.


    But if Cain was the one fighting Bones he won't be gassing soon so this same strategy that gives good results for Cormier is the same Cain likes to do : punches, punches and pressure clinch.

    Seems Jones has no answer for this heavy pressure, so HW Jones won't be a reality soon! He will keep avoiding HW at all costs.

    No match for Cain, Jds or even Werdum...
     
  2. Fruitsaladsushi

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    Either relentless cardio, pressure..... Or someone with legit ko power and good wrestling...neither are possessed by anyone @205
     
  3. trott

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    there is no single key. you have to be well rounded in all aspects(especially wrestling), have good cardio, an amazing amount of heart, and you have to be able to adjust during the fight. then you have a chance.
     
  4. Phrozenspite

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    This. Whoever beats jones is going to have to utilize multiple gameplans and have the tools too. If rumble or gus dont do it i really doubt we see him lose til age catches up to him or another dominant guy comes along
     
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    Pressure all 25 minutes. Once Bones started to dictate pace of fight, it was all over
     
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    Rounds two and three in this fight convinced me that Jones can be Cain'd successfully, but nobody can do that to him for five rounds in the 205 division. He's the king at 205, but I don't think he's got good odds at taking on Cain.
     
  8. MCS

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    Gus showed one way via lateral movement and body/head fast straights, DC the other by clinching and dirty boxing. Only a few fighters can apply either plan with any kind of success.

    Even if Cain gets in time after time, yesterday showed how good Jones' TDD and infighting are, meaning those shots Cain would likely take coming in would mean more, as he probably can't get him down or bully him in the clinch. And those strikes score points and do make anyone tired, even Cain. Plus, Jones won the first round.

    Gus' movement-based approach is more difficult to succeed in, as one mistake leads to being taken down or if the footwork is a bit off, Jones will land his kicks and score points. At least with throwing down on the inside Cain could land a shot that drops or hurts Jones.
     
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    THe key to beating jon is having a decent tdd, and decent hand/footspeed. the only guy who gave him problems was gus.
    machida fucked around too much but had him threatened
    it's all about hand and footspeed. jones achilles heel is also his greatest strength. his length. because of his crazy limbs he's got greater reach but it also slows his reaction time down.
     
  10. CarbonIsotope**

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    Yep.
     
  11. Uncommon Valor

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    There is no " key" in beating Jones.
     
  12. MCS

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    isn't there are key to beating everyone
     
  13. berimBOWLoh

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    you just described Cain....
     
  14. Roids

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    If Cain can do what DC did in Rn2 he could really damage jones over 5 rounds. One key you need is great cardio and work rate.
     
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    I guess so, but it's going to take more than relentless punches to beat Jones, lol.
     
  16. Hawke

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    Rumble will beat Jones
     
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    Cain is a pressing machine who never tires. And Bones hasn't shown knock out power. No way Jones beats Cain.
     
  18. justblaze717

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    Straight punches.
     
  19. runfrumu

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    Jones likes to dictate the pace. Cormier was more successful in the early rounds because he made Jones back up so he couldn't stand their and pick him apart with big shots. Jomes still landed, just not as much as he probably wanted to. To be able to pressure Jones for 5 rounds will be no easy task, and to out strike him while doing so isn't either. Hes the best for a reason.
     

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