Are people forgetting that the UFC, Novitzky and Jones said that...

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  1. kflo

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    You didn’t read the article on Stanley close enough. He tested positive between July and May of the following year.

    And again, jones hasn’t “proven” to be. That’s why he fought at 232.
     
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    Like I said a long time ago, the UFC made sure that Jones' PED usage will not be an issue going forward after DC II. They have effectively and openly showed the public that Jon will be pardoned for the rest of his career. They even proactively set the cover in place in the event he pops every fight going forward for the rest of his career.
     
  3. kflo

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    Didn’t you say they’d make sure he never popped on a test?

    And how would they explain if jones had short or med term metabolites or a big spike in m3?
     
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    EdmundsEmptyBankAccount Pulsing expert from Pulsylvania

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    @kflo still going at it...
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  5. kflo

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    Lots of misinformation out there bro.
     
  6. kflo

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    Of course, you won’t quote a single one......
     
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    They also constantly pointed out that it would show up in some tests and not in others. Not saying they aren't full of shit but they did disclose that it showed up in several tests but not in several others.

    His post fight tests (Based on their theory) shouldn't have any traces because at that point he had stopped weight cutting for a few days (Which is apparently where the traces came from).
     
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    My theory is that the substantial assistance he is providing is being a guinea pig for a study detecting cheque drops or whatever gear and masking combo he is using so they can catch a bunch of people at the same time. Couple of labs accidentally stumbled their way into detecting the m3 metabolite, and threw a monkey wrench in their plans. Er go "pulsing".

    They're making an exception for the greater good, but they could have chosen a more deserving guinea pig.
     
  9. tonyDaTiger

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    You don't even believe this
     
  10. ralek4grammy

    ralek4grammy Purple Belt

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    It's just like Radium (half life of 1600 years).
     
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    Because they don't want to admit to microdosing

    TurinaJones gonna TurinaBones ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  13. Brass Balls

    Brass Balls WME turning hardcores into casuals

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    The only thing proven was that the UFC, usada & CSAC are corrupt organizations.
     
  14. kflo

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    they've stated they've never heard of microdosing tbol...... but sherdog thinks its the leading theory...
     
  15. kflo

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    what did usada do? why?
     
  16. kflo

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    that's some good tin foil...
     
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    Metal_Daze Geonor St Gregor

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  18. The Schmoop

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    I brought this up in the “Jones confirmed clean” thread. Crazy that these long lasting traces miraculously disappeared in time for his post fight test.
     
  19. The Schmoop

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    That is the most convenient load of shit I’ve ever read. Just let them juice and be done with it.

    10 years down the road: “whoops I pulsed again.”
     
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    At least in principle, the window of detection and the drug's permanence in the body are distinct. It is possible that it could linger for years but fall below detectable levels. Mir says they told him the drug would be out of the body in at most a few months. But if the drug hasn't changed nor has Mir's metabolism, their saying it would be out of his body within months truly was inconsistent with what we're hearing about Jones. Now, if what changed was the sensitivity of the tests, this raises questions that should be addressed: obviously the residue detected in Mir was detectable with the test that existed at the time. What distinguishes that residue from the older residues that are only detectable with the new and improved test? If there really is such a difference, it should be easy to determine whether Jones' is doping or just pulsing: just give him the old test. If it comes back positive, you know he doped recently.





    As I understand it, he didn't ask them to retest anything; he wanted them to test supplements he had taken over six months ago but had no reason to test until he popped.





    Yes and normally an athlete who pops again is considered a repeat offender and punished more harshly, not less. Jones cannily managed to reverse that rule.

    Jones is a blatant counterexample.
     

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