Are Khalil Rountreee and Joaquin Buckley on par with the best kickboxers at kickboxing??

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I want to guage just how strong modern UFC athletes are that aren't from style backgrounds... Both of these guys are pure bred MMA guys.

I would bet that they are equal to kickboxers. But not boxers. Boxing is too specialized. Kickboxing is easier, a good athlete is enough.

Khalil Rountreee lost to Perreira. But Perreira beats most kickboxers out there so that doesn't say anything. Joaquin Buckley I know nothing about. Is he any good?

Another guy I want to ask about is Ovince S t preux.

 

[achoo42]

Khalil Rountree wouldn't do bad at all in kickboxing; he has talent

Joaquin Buckley would get wiped by any elite kickboxer

No version of OSP is an elite kickboxer

 

[World eater]

I would bet that they are equal to kickboxers.

You would lose that bet.

 

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Khalil Rountree would do OK in kickboxing I think

Joaquin Buckley would get wiped by any elite kickboxer

No version of OSP is an elite kickboxer

What is lacking in Joaquin?

 

[tritestill]

Where in the level of WTF did this thread topic come from?

 

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You would lose that bet.

 

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Where in the level of WTF did this thread topic come from?

It's related to how much UFC striking has evolved

 

[Sean Chowdhury]

buckley definitely not, he just comes winging forward and ducks his head, he probably gets tooled by even lower level kickboxers

 

[World eater]

I could link you the Walker - Rountree clip, but I won’t because I like Khalil.

 

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buckley definitely not, he just comes winging forward and ducks his head, he probably gets tooled by even lower level kickboxers

How does he do so well then?

 

[Sean Chowdhury]

How does he do so well then?

because UFC fighters can't kickbox that well aside from a select few

 

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I could link you the Walker - Rountree clip, but I won’t because I like Khalil.

That wouldn't go against my thesis since it is that strong UFC fighters are on par with kickboxers at kickboxing.

 

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because UFC fighters can't kickbox that well aside from a select few

Sean strickland outstruck Israel Adesanya, Khalil koed Ghokan Saki (who proclaimed that he would KO Khalil if he kept it standing).

Etc

 

[Sean Chowdhury]

Sean strickland outstruck Israel Adesanya, Khalil koed Ghokan Saki (who proclaimed that he would KO Khalil if he kept it standing).

Etc

Khalil is a good kickboxer, buckley doesn't really compare to him, I know buck ko'd wonderboy but he was losing most of that fight and WB is getting old so I don't think he is as good of a striker as people think. I think Ian Garry would have pieced him up

 

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, I know buck ko'd wonderboy but he was losing most of that fight and WB is getting old so I don't think he is as good of a striker as people think. I think Ian Garry would have pieced him up

Or.. the UFC is catching up in striking. .

 

[Lord Pyjamas]

Burn this shit.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Saki was more than a decade out of his prime when he finally, bizarrely made it to the UFC.

 

[achoo42]

Gokhan Saki in 2018 was a shell of his former self. He went pro in 2000 for God's sake.

 

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Saki was more than a decade out of his prime when he finally, bizarrely made it to the UFC.

Just like boxers in K1. Ray mercer was 43 when he made his kickboxing debut, and he wore shoes in exchange for not kicking,

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Just like boxers in K1. Ray mercer was 43 when he made his kickboxing debut, and he wore shoes in exchange for not kicking,

People like Mercer and Couture are outliers and you very well know that.
Saki came in after twenty years of hard work and damage, and looked like shit. Hell, showing Khalil hanging with Poatan for almost 4 rounds and arguably winning at least one or two of them shows more that Khalil can hang with elite level kickboxers than him finishing the Ghost of Gokan.