Are Capitalism and women's nature in conflict ?

[bobgeese]

It's because our politicians are largely bought and sold. There is definitely a way to reduce costs and maintain a free market delivery system. Our politicians won't do it because of the insurance lobby. That is where the most waste is occurring. It's a shame everyone has lost their testicles these days.

Oh, I’m aware.

Which is why the Democrats will win that battle.

 

[Philo-Publius]

Oh, I’m aware.

Which is why the Democrats will win that battle.

Medicare for all will also adversely impact the insurance companies though. So, if you're right, it means the insurance industry will eventually succumb to determination of the Democratic party to destroy our Health Care system (while the Republicans have no determination to save it). What a shitfest.

 

[Islam Imamate]

It's because our politicians are largely bought and sold. There is definitely a way to reduce costs and maintain a free market delivery system. Our politicians won't do it because of the insurance lobby. That is where the most waste is occurring. It's a shame everyone has lost their testicles these days.

How? Is there an example of this working in another country where it provides similar levels of access to universal healthcare?

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Is capitalism and women's nature in conflict?

Followed by a 10 year old's understanding of capitalism and a virgin's understanding of women's nature.

The only thing this thread does is highlight the incredible use of identity politics on the right. Fuck understanding policy, understanding politics. It's all about who you want be associated with.

Capitalism = men, rugged, individualism, profit, competition, Republicans

Socialism = women, soft, collectivist, sharing, pussies, Democrats

And that's not even entering race in equation.

 

[Wingslaught]

How? Is there an example of this working in another country where it provides similar levels of access to universal healthcare?

Yes...America in the 1950's before the government got involved. I'm no sage-knowledge expert on the Healthcare industry, but in general anything the government gets involved in suffers from ballooning cost increases that only get worse over time. Examples include healthcare and college. To oversimplify things, as soon as a seller of a good or service realizes payments will be guaranteed by the government prices mysteriously begin to rise. Then to make matters worse many people look to the government to continue to intervene to ensure citizens have access to these things with ever increasing strangleholds, measures, and controls on the particular good or service until there's nothing left to do but take over the ENTIRE industry (ex. Universal Healthcare, Single-payer etc.) Then the government gets total and complete control over your medical records which could be abused in all kinds of alarming ways.

The government first started getting involved in guaranteeing access to healthcare with a program to link healthcare to one's employer and this is when costs began to rise.

 

[Jack V Savage]

The only thing this thread does is highlight the incredible use of identity politics on the right. Fuck understanding policy, understanding politics. It's all about who you want be associated with.

Capitalism = men, rugged, individualism, profit, competition, Republicans

Socialism = women, soft, collectivist, sharing, pussies, Democrats

And that's not even entering race in equation.

It's weird, too, because Trump is pretty much the least rugged guy on the planet. Silver-spoon baby, fat, old, never takes responsibility for anything, lies constantly.

 

[Phi-]

Hang out with a lot of billionaires, do you? Your fake claim 2 posts ago was that these are people you know, then you went on to describe Billy Madison. Lol, you made a claim, it was demonstrably false, now you've gotten lost having to walk it back and pretend you were talking about something else.

Most of us consider millionaires to be "rich", but now your threshold for "rich" is billionaire? Ok fine, how many people are you pretending inherited billions of dollars? The top 5 richest people in the US are Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Mark Zuckerberg and Larry Ellison. Which of them inherited billions of dollars?

From the Forbes 400 list, only 16% inherited their wealth(none in the top 10), another 16% did have a smaller inheritance that they grew, and the other nearly 70% of the 400 richest people in the country are completely self-made. That kind of shoots down your little theory about "the man" holding you down.

You don't even know what you're talking about anymore. This is stemming from your ridiculous claim that "most people's wealth doesn't come down to successful businesses, but by inheritance", and "the most common way to get rich is by inheritance". That is straight up not true no matter how move the goal post, and it's a delusion that only poor people have that everything is rigged against them and they can't get ahead no matter what they do and everyone who's not poor either got it dishonestly, stole it from someone else or inherited it, and that's just not the case no matter what shifting standard you'd like to use.

What are you talking about? I don't hang out, I work for them and sometimes talk to them, lol. Most of them are normal people. But I do know two who are taken care of by their wives.Why? Because they are the kind of people that hang around plastic fucking plants for 2 minutes when they see some. The funniest thing about it that they are both in high positions in their company too, but since the family portfolio has long since been diversified it absolutely doesn't matter. I've also never seen Billy Madison, but if you want a pop culture comparison it's very much like arrested development in real life, that one borderline retarded son with the hook for a hand?

I don't think millionaires have huge amounts of wealth and from how you talk I don't think you fully comprehend the relation between a million and a billion. Number 400 on the forbes list is worth a cool 2,1B $, that's literally a thousand times more than a millionaire has.

My little theory? Did I say that anybody is holding me down? Nice strawman, buddeh. As I've mentioned, the internet and globalization were a historic anomaly with more people getting filthy rich than usual in a short time (though that's down to the worth of their company-shares they own), the same can be seen in China with their filthy rich tech billionaires despite being "communist".The point is that even the great-grandchildren of those tech billionaires will be part of a club you're definitely not invited to. 30% inherited out of the top 400 and just 16 dynasties having over 600 Billion $ is huge, no matter how you look at it. It's really bad for consumption and consumption is very important for a functioning economy.

 

[Phi-]

Translation: I'm not rich so something must be wrong with the system

Is that what you think of Warren Buffet as well when he says that people like him should pay higher taxes?

 

[Jack V Savage]

Is that what you think of Warren Buffet as well when he says that people like him should pay higher taxes?

No, then you say "translation: I'm so rich I don't have to care about anything but virtue signaling." Or he's a hypocrite for opposing his class interests. The point isn't to rationally evaluate arguments and try to identify what is right (the right doesn't believe in truth anymore); it's just to shut down views that are inconvenient for people's political tribes without considering them.

 

[Islam Imamate]

No, then you say "translation: I'm so rich I don't have to care about anything but virtue signaling." Or he's a hypocrite for opposing his class interests. The point isn't to rationally evaluate arguments and try to identify what is right (the right doesn't believe in truth anymore); it's just to shut down views that are inconvenient for people's political tribes without considering them.

Russel Brand has a comment about this

When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

It's weird, too, because Trump is pretty much the least rugged guy on the planet. Silver-spoon baby, fat, old, never takes responsibility for anything, lies constantly.

True. But he is also aggressive, vulgar, and rich. Those count for a lot and make up for his shortcomings.

You heard all throughout the campaign trail in 2016: "I love that he tells it like it is!" "Well, he might not be polished but he says what's on his mind!" And the classics "He's real successful, he knows how the economy works."

He's rich therefore he'll make US rich.

THAT is the logic that helped win this man the presidency of the oldest democracy in the world. Unbelievable times.

 

[Philo-Publius]

How? Is there an example of this working in another country where it provides similar levels of access to universal healthcare?

By eliminating the government mandated reimbursement system between insurance companies and medical providers. We should cut out the insurance company middle man completely and pay monthly membership fees to Health Care systems instead of paying monthly premiums to insurance companies. The medical billing process has become so costly and convoluted, Health Care systems, consumers, and tax payers are pouring far too much money into it. It's the single biggest reason why Health Care is so expensive.

If we went to a Socialized system instead, we would have long wait lists/rationing of care, non-covered services, and government deciding who gets approved for treatment and who doesn't.

We don't need other countries to tell us how things should work. We've always been pretty good and figuring that out on our own.

 

[brackis1]

Just doubli

What are you talking about? I don't hang out, I work for them and sometimes talk to them, lol. Most of them are normal people. But I do know two who are taken care of by their wives.Why? Because they are the kind of people that hang around plastic fucking plants for 2 minutes when they see some. The funniest thing about it that they are both in high positions in their company too, but since the family portfolio has long since been diversified it absolutely doesn't matter. I've also never seen Billy Madison, but if you want a pop culture comparison it's very much like arrested development in real life, that one borderline retarded son with the hook for a hand?

I don't think millionaires have huge amounts of wealth and from how you talk I don't think you fully comprehend the relation between a million and a billion. Number 400 on the forbes list is worth a cool 2,1B $, that's literally a thousand times more than a millionaire has.

My little theory? Did I say that anybody is holding me down? Nice strawman, buddeh. As I've mentioned, the internet and globalization were a historic anomaly with more people getting filthy rich than usual in a short time (though that's down to the worth of their company-shares they own), the same can be seen in China with their filthy rich tech billionaires despite being "communist".The point is that even the great-grandchildren of those tech billionaires will be part of a club you're definitely not invited to. 30% inherited out of the top 400 and just 16 dynasties having over 600 Billion $ is huge, no matter how you look at it. It's really bad for consumption and consumption is very important for a functioning economy.

LOL CNBC right now featuring a story about a secret billionaire with 2 bill in assets hiding thru tax shelters in South Dakota and Bermuda