Are arm punches really that bad?

Maybe not textbook punchers but they def aren't throwing arm punches.

Actually, Paul Williams, Diaz, Ali, etc.... and a whole host of other boxers do throw some arm punches, and yes they do it intentionally and they do have their place. Arm punches or light tapping type punches are used regularly in boxing as set-up shots, distractions, for creating misdirection, as feints, etc...... If your throwing arm punches with the idea of damaging an opponent, it aint gonna happen!

Not all strikes are intended to be thrown with the idea of ending a fight, many times punches are used just to gauge distance, time reactions, find range, set up counters......etc.....
 
Don't try to justify having slow hips. :)

But I agree with those who point out that flicking the arm out isn't always a bad thing but it should never be confused with good technique. If you have a reason then fine, otherwise get your hips faster so you can still flip that arm out for "speed".

I agree when it comes to probing/faking punches, but the OP is talking about fully committed punches.

Dela Hoya is great at pawing his hands in front of you when he is standing toe to toe but, when he wants to commit to something, he turns his whole body into it.
 
They suck the gas out of your arms eventually. Using your hips is more energy efficient because it takes away most of the effort.
 
I agree when it comes to probing/faking punches, but the OP is talking about fully committed punches.

Dela Hoya is great at pawing his hands in front of you when he is standing toe to toe but, when he wants to commit to something, he turns his whole body into it.

thats something different. Thats called measuring.
 
Actually, Paul Williams, Diaz, Ali, etc.... and a whole host of other boxers do throw some arm punches, and yes they do it intentionally and they do have their place. Arm punches or light tapping type punches are used regularly in boxing as set-up shots, distractions, for creating misdirection, as feints, etc...... If your throwing arm punches with the idea of damaging an opponent, it aint gonna happen!

Not all strikes are intended to be thrown with the idea of ending a fight, many times punches are used just to gauge distance, time reactions, find range, set up counters......etc.....

granted not all punches are intended to end the fight, but no one uses arm punches to set up shots or counters. we are all taught if you want to feint some one we use proper technique and speed with little power. that way our hips are always set up for the next punch.

we have a guy here who doesnt want to listen to his coach because he believes arm punches are better for him. two things comes to mind when he says this,

1. he is too lazy to use proper technique
or
2. he doesnt have enough faith in himself to apply proper technique.
 
Gee, the OP got flamed. Anyway, I'll just ask, WHY ARE YOU TRAINING WITH A COACH IF YOU DON'T FUCKING LISTEN TO HIM?! You might as well go home and try to learn boxing by punching a bag.
 
Sometimes your feet just get caught out of position for whatever reason and you have to arm punch
 
Are arm punches really that bad? Well, yes and no. As has been mentioned, you don't have to rotate your hips on every punch, as many times you might be trying to gauge distance, feint/ elicit a response, etc. Nick Diaz likes to swarm guys with arm punches with massive volume to mark up their face (however, he has reach/ height over most guys at his weight), and then rips them with digging body shots.

However, the problem is that you won't be able to get any power behind your punches if you don't swivel your hips. Especially since you're a beginner, you should really work on getting better hip rotation & extension on your punches. You won't be developing a style anytime soon, so just do what your coaches tell you, and don't undermine/ second guess them unless what they're saying is totally off base/ ridiculous.
 
Also, to expound on what I already said, those that have said that you don't rotate your hips during combos, that's dead wrong. You might throw in a few feints, but if you throw a punch during a combo, you throw it with proper technique. If i'm trying to set up a 2-3, then I'm gonna pivot and throw the cross (without overextending), which loads me up for the hook. If that doesn't get him, after the hook your cross is loaded again, so you can follow with the 2 again.

Most combos are all about starting with the jab to get inside, then throwing power punches and/ or kicks (all which require proper hip rotation, foot pivot, etc).
 
When it all comes down to it, arm punching is the dumbest F@#$ing thing that you could be doing.

Bottom line, don't try and be smarter than your coach. Just shut up and do what he/she tells you. Otherwise, you are going to get that brain of yours some damage in the ring.
 
Erik Morales was most of the time an arm-puncher.

And he was a devastating puncher at super-bantamweight.
 
Isn't the jab an arm punch?

Yeah, it is. But I think the TS was saying that his coaches have told him that he was only punching with his arms, which leads me to believe he doesn't have enough rotation in his cross/ hook/ etc

Erik Morales was most of the time an arm-puncher.

And he was a devastating puncher at super-bantamweight.

Well, that's more the exception than the rule. Carwin has next to no hip rotation, and still hits like a dump truck. Some guys can just throw.
 
Actually, Paul Williams, Diaz, Ali, etc.... and a whole host of other boxers do throw some arm punches, and yes they do it intentionally and they do have their place. Arm punches or light tapping type punches are used regularly in boxing as set-up shots, distractions, for creating misdirection, as feints, etc...... If your throwing arm punches with the idea of damaging an opponent, it aint gonna happen!

Not all strikes are intended to be thrown with the idea of ending a fight, many times punches are used just to gauge distance, time reactions, find range, set up counters......etc.....

theres a difference between light tapping punches and arm punches.

Ppl who are arm punchers also throw more than most and use volume as an offence. Instead of looking to land hard shots the guy just throws lots and is waiting for the cumulative effect of all those punches to take effect.
It might not be as hard as a proper punch but they will stun you !

Even Winky Wright said that in the beginning he usually just arm punches, to stay safe defensively.

Any doubters of its effectiveness just watch Paul Williams.

Of course 95% of posters here are UFC/MMA fans who think slugging and power shots are the way to go.
No subtlety or patience.
 
did you see Forrest Griffin beating Shogun Rua and Rampage Jackson ?

cant be that bad.

Its ok. Its good to hip punch but if you cant thats ok too. You work to your strengths.
watch Nick n Nate Diaz or Paul Williams in boxing.

Shit , Ali was a notorious arm puncher.....didnt bother him the least.

didn't know forrest choked shogun & messed up rampage's legs with arm punches.

*enrols in wing chun...
 
theres a difference between light tapping punches and arm punches.

Ppl who are arm punchers also throw more than most and use volume as an offence. Instead of looking to land hard shots the guy just throws lots and is waiting for the cumulative effect of all those punches to take effect.
It might not be as hard as a proper punch but they will stun you !

Even Winky Wright said that in the beginning he usually just arm punches, to stay safe defensively.

Any doubters of its effectiveness just watch Paul Williams.

Of course 95% of posters here are UFC/MMA fans who think slugging and power shots are the way to go.
No subtlety or patience.

Well, volume punching can work against certain guys. However, a guy who knows what he's doing will just wade right through, bust you up with a shot or 2 with much better power, and pick his shots. Noons/ Diaz 1 is an example of this.
 
If you are intending on hurting him, you better use your hips, or he is just going to eat it and hit you back harder!
 
Isn't the jab an arm punch?

no their not. you still push off the back foot rotating your hips and turning your shoulder over, remembering to twist your front foot to get out that extension. jab arm punches without using proper techniques would mess up your elbows some what as you would have to flick it out fast if you want to create some power.

if your elbows are hurting from throwing jabs, thats an indication you are doing it wrong.
 
no their not. you still push off the back foot rotating your hips and turning your shoulder over, remembering to twist your front foot to get out that extension. jab arm punches without using proper techniques would mess up your elbows some what as you would have to flick it out fast if you want to create some power.

if your elbows are hurting from throwing jabs, thats an indication you are doing it wrong.

Agreed

It is especially important that you "shuck" your shoulders when throwing linear strikes. Circular strikes like a hook or upper cut is more about hips and angles.

To my humble understanding.
 
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