Social Arbitrator sides with Ontario parent who refuses to immunize children, cites anti-vaccination 'exper

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  1. Grenz

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    https://nationalpost.com/news/arbit...-immunize-child-cites-anti-vaccination-expert

    TLDR:
    • Father sues ex-wife to have their two children vaccinated
    • Case goes before a family arbitrator who isn't a judge
    • Mother calls expert testimony, one of which is Dr Toni Bar, a medical doctor who has shifted her practice chiefly to alternative medicine such as homeopathy. She appears frequently at anti-vaccination events and on anti-vaccination websites in the U.S.
    • Dr Bark says things that are at best conjecture, family arbitrator goes full DK and rules in favour of the mother, stipulating the father pay $35,000 for her legal fees, $11,000 of which are for Bark's testimony
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    It's beginning to get crowded on Mt. Stupid.
     
  2. BarryDillon

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    Completely insane.
     
  3. LogicalInsanity

    LogicalInsanity Free RR! Belt

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    When it comes to vaccines, I always defer to Jenny McCarthy over these so-called "Doctors."
     
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    JudoThrowFiasco Charming Quark Platinum Member

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    I get that once time gets further away from an event the populace forgets about it's impact and significance...but you would figure polio, measles and the like would be immune to that phenomena.

    Guess not
     
  5. Fugazy

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    Expert claims to "not find any risk" if the children remain unvaccinated... Not even the risk of contracting the diseases they are not vaccinated for..?

    "Expert" ay?
     
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    My gut feeling is that this father only sued his ex-wife on this basis because he figured it was a slam dunk way to fuck with his wife. Then the arbitrator seems to have wanted to side with the woman, perhaps sensing it was a cynical ploy by the father, and accepted the wife's retarded argument to spite the father.
     
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    35k? I bet the arbitrator is anti vaxx and is fucking crazy mom.

    Poor kids, whopping cough can be dangerous not to mention highly uncomfortable. And it lasts for months!
     
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    you dont risk the life and well being of a child on a whim to stick it to the father. I think the idiot overestimated the value of the homeopath. No becky, your gem stones and sage wont cure billy's polio
     
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    Are you questioning the ability of quartz to heal what ails you?

    Good goddesses, man!
     
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    Yeah I agree.
     
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    when i was in undergrad i tried to feign interest in this hot girl who was trying to explain healing stones. I lasted 15 mins before i told her she sounds asinine. If a hot girl cant get a horny 19 year old to sit through her spiel, her stones def can not cure super cancer.
     
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    I think part of the issue was the father didn't call any expert testimony himself. He probably figured he didn't need any, the same anti vax expert witness from this arbitration has been denied at least twice in the US to give testimony in similar proceedings. Also, the rulings in similar cases in the US generally generally end with the kids getting vaccinated. So he probably figured he had precedent on his side, combined with the fact that nobody, meaning judges and immunologists takes Dr Bar seriously, but alas, a crazy arbitrator nixed his plans. Wouldn't be surprised if he wins the appeal though.
     
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    I think it's bullshit, but the dad usually loses vs mom in court. That male privilege lol.

    Not defending this, but the kids are 12 and 8. Not a big chance of getting a life threatening disease you can be vaccinated against.

    But a really shitty precedent to be setting.
     
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    And I believe the children actually contracted Whooping Cough as this was going on, for extra irony.

    Plus the father speaking about the issue publicly goes against the terms of their agreement, so he’ll likely face a financial penalty for that as well.

    Poor guy.
     
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    What makes you think so?
     
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    The Dad had remarried and his new wife was pregnant at the time or had already given birth. So perhaps his concern was more about having unvaccinated children around a newborn which can’t be fully vaccinated. Seems like that concern was justified considering both of his older kids got whooping cough.
     
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