International [Arab-Israeli Conflict, v4] Israel Sets Goal of Doubling the Jewish Population on the Golan Heights

[Arkain2K]

 

[panamaican]

I'm not surprised, it was a bad resolution and we shouldn't have put it forward. Losing just makes us look weak and out of touch.

 

[Arkain2K]

Australia formally recognizes West Jerusalem as the capital of Israel
Dec 15, 2018 / CBS/AP

SYDNEY -- Australia now formally recognizes west Jerusalem as Israel's capital. But it won't move its embassy until there's a peace settlement between Israel and the Palestinians, Prime Minister Scott Morrison announced Saturday.

Morrison said Australia would recognize east Jerusalem as Palestine's capital only after a settlement has been reached on a two-state solution. The Australian Embassy won't be moved from Tel Aviv until such a time, he said.

While the embassy move is delayed, Morrison said his government would establish a defense and trade office in Jerusalem and would also start looking for an appropriate site for the embassy. He said the decision respects both a commitment to a two-state solution and long-standing respect for relevant U.N. Security Council resolutions.

"The Australian government has decided that Australia now recognizes west Jerusalem, as the seat of the Knesset and many of the institutions of government, is the capital of Israel," Morrison said.

Australia becomes the third country to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital following the U.S. and Guatemala. Unlike its predecessors, though, Australia recognized only the western part of the city. The move is therefore unlikely to please either side entirely.

Refusing to include east Jerusalem, home to the city's most important religious sites, is likely to upset Israeli nationalists who dominate Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's coalition.

For the Palestinians, it offers a partial resolution to an issue they believe should be resolved through negotiations.

Senior Palestinian official Saeb Erekat slammed Australia's "irresponsible policies" that led to the recognition.

"The policies of this Australian administration have done nothing to advance the two-state solution," Erekat said in a statement, stressing the Palestinian view that the holy city remains a final-status issue in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks, which have run aground.

There was no immediate comment from Israel's government on Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath.

Israel captured east Jerusalem in the 1967 Mideast war and annexed it in a move that is not internationally recognized. Israel considers east Jerusalem an indivisible part of its capital, while the Palestinians seek the area -- home to the city's most sensitive holy sites -- as the capital of a future state.

Israel has built a dozen settlements in east Jerusalem since 1967, BBC News reports. They considered illegal under international law.

Morrison said his country should use its "incredible influence" with Israel in an effort to bring to an end a "rancid stalemate" in the region, the BBC reported.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/australia-recognizes-west-jerusalem-as-the-capital-of-israel/

 

[Seaside]

Trump endorses separate Palestinian state as goal of Mideast peace talks
By Anne Gearan and Ruth Eglash | September 26

​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...b1e46bb3bc7_story.html?utm_term=.099c19797246

Ive read many sources suggesting it will call for egyptian rule of gaza and palestinians in gaxa get part of north sinai. And a corridor to jordan. All west bank sunninarabs get jordanian citizenship. And a new city is built in jordan to accomidate 1 million palestinians. Israel holds jerusalem as its capital and annexes most of west bank. Palestinians move to hebron or jordan or the new palestinian capital in west bank and their 2nd joint capital of amman.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/22722

Australia formally recognizes West Jerusalem as the capital of Israel
Dec 15, 2018 / CBS/AP

SYDNEY -- Australia now formally recognizes west Jerusalem as Israel's capital. But it won't move its embassy until there's a peace settlement between Israel and the Palestinians, Prime Minister Scott Morrison announced Saturday.

Morrison said Australia would recognize east Jerusalem as Palestine's capital only after a settlement has been reached on a two-state solution. The Australian Embassy won't be moved from Tel Aviv until such a time, he said.

While the embassy move is delayed, Morrison said his government would establish a defense and trade office in Jerusalem and would also start looking for an appropriate site for the embassy. He said the decision respects both a commitment to a two-state solution and long-standing respect for relevant U.N. Security Council resolutions.

"The Australian government has decided that Australia now recognizes west Jerusalem, as the seat of the Knesset and many of the institutions of government, is the capital of Israel," Morrison said.

Australia becomes the third country to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital following the U.S. and Guatemala. Unlike its predecessors, though, Australia recognized only the western part of the city. The move is therefore unlikely to please either side entirely.

Refusing to include east Jerusalem, home to the city's most important religious sites, is likely to upset Israeli nationalists who dominate Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's coalition.

For the Palestinians, it offers a partial resolution to an issue they believe should be resolved through negotiations.

Senior Palestinian official Saeb Erekat slammed Australia's "irresponsible policies" that led to the recognition.

"The policies of this Australian administration have done nothing to advance the two-state solution," Erekat said in a statement, stressing the Palestinian view that the holy city remains a final-status issue in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks, which have run aground.

There was no immediate comment from Israel's government on Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath.

Israel captured east Jerusalem in the 1967 Mideast war and annexed it in a move that is not internationally recognized. Israel considers east Jerusalem an indivisible part of its capital, while the Palestinians seek the area -- home to the city's most sensitive holy sites -- as the capital of a future state.

Israel has built a dozen settlements in east Jerusalem since 1967, BBC News reports. They considered illegal under international law.

Morrison said his country should use its "incredible influence" with Israel in an effort to bring to an end a "rancid stalemate" in the region, the BBC reported.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/australia-recognizes-west-jerusalem-as-the-capital-of-israel/

That article is wrong. Russia also recognizes west jerusalem. But Russia has to play the muslims for geopolitical reasons of expanding the eurasian union. Australia is just cowardly. Brazil will recognize jerusalem in full and after them i expect czech republic, romania and austria to go next. Argentina and colombia are also possibility as is canada is canada if they ever forms a conservatice government again.

 

[Arkain2K]

Russia also recognizes west jerusalem.

Kinda.

Russia will recognize West Jerusalem as Israel’s capital only if East Jerusalem becomes Palestine’s

In a diplomatic missive endorsing the two-state solution, Moscow has said that it is ready to recognize West Jerusalem as Israel’s official capital, providing that statehood is granted to Palestinians, who will base their capital in the eastern part of the city.

“The stalling of the Middle East peace process has created conditions for unilateral moves that undermine the potential for an internationally accepted solution to the Palestinian problem, under which two states – Israel and Palestine – could live in peace and security with each other and with their neighbors,” said the Russian Foreign Ministry in an English-language statement on its website.

https://www.rt.com/news/383777-israel-russia-capital-jerusalem/

 

[Seaside]

Kinda.



https://www.rt.com/news/383777-israel-russia-capital-jerusalem/

what you think about the link i linked. The confederation plan

 

[Arkain2K]

what you think about the link i linked. The confederation plan

At this point, I'm quite convinced that absolutely no one who's in a position to change things actually want to make any meaningful concession that would allow any drastic changes from the status quo, or to back off from any of their demands, which used to be the starting point of the negotiation but now has become immovable due to the public's opinion.

 

[Arkain2K]

 

[Konster]

The Devils Children have their finger in everything.

 

[Arkain2K]

 

[Arkain2K]

 

[Arkain2K]

WHY IS THE AREA CONTENTIOUS?

The Golan Heights were part of Syria until 1967, when Israel captured most of the area in the Six Day War, occupying it and annexing it in 1981. That unilateral annexation was not recognized internationally, and Syria demands the return of the territory.

Syria tried to regain the Heights in the 1973 Middle East war, but was thwarted. Israel and Syria signed an armistice in 1974 and the Golan had been relatively quiet since.

In 2000, Israel and Syria held their highest-level talks over a possible return of the Golan and a peace agreement. But the negotiations collapsed and subsequent talks also failed.

WHY DOES ISRAEL WANT THE GOLAN?

Security. Israel says that the civil war in Syria demonstrates the need to keep the plateau as a buffer zone between Israeli towns and the instability of its neighbor.

Israel’s government says it also fears that Iran, an ally of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, is seeking to establish itself permanently on the Syrian side of the border in order to launch attacks on Israel.

Both sides covet the Golan’s water resources and naturally fertile soil.

Syria insists that the part of the Golan held by Israel remains occupied territory and has demanded its return.

WHO LIVES THERE?

More than 40,000 people live on the Israeli-occupied Golan, more than half of them Druze residents.

The Druze are an Arab minority who practice an offshoot of Islam and many of its adherents in Syria have long been loyal to the Assad regime.

After annexing the Golan, Israel gave the Druze the option of citizenship, but most rejected it and still identify as Syrian. About another 20,000 Israeli settlers also live there, many of them working in farming and tourism.

WHO CONTROLS THE SYRIAN SIDE OF THE GOLAN?

Before the outbreak of the civil war in Syria in 2011, there was an uneasy stand-off between Israeli and Syrian forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad.

But in 2014 anti-government Islamist rebels overran Quneitra province on the Syrian side. The rebels forced Assad’s forces to withdraw and also turned on U.N. forces in the area, forcing them to pull back from some of their positions.

The area remained under rebel control until the summer of 2018, when Assad’s forces returned to the largely ruined city of Quneitra and the surrounding area following a Russian-backed offensive and a deal that allowed rebels to withdraw.

WHAT IS THE CURRENT MILITARY SITUATION?

Assad’s forces are now back in control of the Syrian side of the Quneitra crossing, which reopened in October 2018, while United Nations forces are still carrying out refurbishment works to positions they were forced to leave years ago.

Although Israel signaled that it would not impede the Syrian army’s return to Quneitra, it has repeatedly expressed concern that Assad may defy the U.N. armistice, or let his Iranian and Lebanese Hezbollah allies deploy there.

WHAT SEPARATES THE TWO SIDES ON THE GOLAN?

A United Nations Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF) is stationed in camps and observation posts along the Golan, supported by military observers of the United Nations Truce Supervision Organization (UNTSO).

Between the Israeli and Syrian armies is a 400-square-km (155-square-mile) “Area of Separation” - often called a demilitarized zone - in which the two countries’ military forces are not permitted under the ceasefire arrangement.

The Separation of Forces Agreement of May 31, 1974 created an Alpha Line to the west of the area of separation, behind which Israeli military forces must remain, and a Bravo Line to the east behind which Syrian military forces must remain.

Extending 25 km beyond the “Area of Separation” on both sides is an “Area of Limitation” in which there are restrictions on the number of troops and number and kinds of weapons that both sides can have there.

There is one crossing point between the Israeli and Syrian sides, which until the Syrian civil war broke out in 2011 was used mainly by United Nations forces, a limited number of Druze civilians and for the transportation of agricultural produce.

 

[Arkain2K]

 

[3DayFunk]

The Devils Children have their finger in everything.

Who are these Devils children you speak of ?

 

[JDragon]

Oh boy

 

[Psychedelic]

Israel is a fake country created by the British empire, based on a 3000 year old book.

They massacred the native population of the land, manufactured a country and brought European Jews to it, and are not recognizing the settlers as the rightful owners of this land.

Tragic, really.

 

[Arkain2K]

The Six Day War (1967)

 

[Arkain2K]

The Battle For The Golan Heights

 

[Phr3121]

Trump said the U.S. should recognize Israel’s authority over Golan Heights.

Well, Trump is wrong. Again...

 

[Arkain2K]

Golan Heights: Trump signs order recognising occupied area as Israeli
25 March 2019

President Donald Trump has officially recognised Israeli sovereignty over the occupied Golan Heights, seized from Syria in 1967, in a move hailed as "historic" by Israel's prime minister.

Benjamin Netanyahu, who faces an election next month, was by Mr Trump's side as he signed the proclamation.

Syria said Mr Trump's decision was "a blatant attack on its sovereignty".

Israel annexed the Golan Heights in 1981, in a move that is not recognised internationally.

A spokesman for United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said on Monday he was "clear that the status of Golan has not changed".

For decades, Washington took the same line as the UN, but last week Mr Trump announced his plan to overturn decades of US policy in a tweet.

In response, Syria has vowed to recover the area "through all available means".

But Mr Netanyahu told reporters gathered in Washington on Monday that Israel "shall never give it up".

"Your proclamation comes at a time when Golan is more important than ever for our security," he said, citing threats from Iranian forces in Syria.

It is, he added, "a two-fold act of historic justice".
"Israel won the Golan Heights in a just war of self-defence and the Jewish people's roots in the Golan go back thousands of years," Mr Netanyahu said.

However, there is little sign any other countries will be following in US footsteps, which a Syrian foreign ministry source described as a "humiliating blow to the international community", according to the state-run news agency Sana.

Russia - which has been providing military support to President Bashar al-Assad in the Syrian conflict - warned the decree "could drive a new wave of tensions in the Middle East region".

Meanwhile, Turkey - which has been supporting the Syrian opposition - said it was "impossible" to accept the US decree, adding it planned to take action against it at the UN.

What are the Golan Heights?

The region is located about 60km (40 miles) south-west of the Syrian capital, Damascus, and covers about 1,200 sq km (400 sq miles).

Israel seized most of the Golan Heights from Syria in the closing stages of the 1967 Middle East war, and thwarted a Syrian attempt to retake the region during the 1973 war.

The two countries agreed a disengagement plan the following year that involved the creation of a 70km-long (44-mile) demilitarised zone patrolled by a United Nations observer force. But they remained technically in a state of war.

In 1981, Israel's parliament passed legislation applying Israeli "law, jurisdiction, and administration" to the Golan, in effect annexing the territory. But the international community did not recognise the move and maintained that the Golan was occupied Syrian territory. UN Security Council Resolution 497 declared the Israeli decision "null and void and without international legal effect" .

Syria has always insisted that it will not agree a peace deal with Israel unless it withdraws from the whole of the Golan. The last US-brokered direct peace talks broke down in 2000, while Turkey mediated in indirect talks in 2008.

There are more than 30 Israeli settlements in the Golan, which are home to an estimated 20,000 people. The settlements are considered illegal under international law, although Israel disputes this. The settlers live alongside some 20,000 Syrians, most of them Druze Arabs, who did not flee when the Golan was captured.

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-middle-east-47697717