Anyone with a brain cell had it 3-1 Reyes going into the 5th, making a Jones decision impossible

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  1. rodn86 Blue Belt

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    All of you who had it otherwise, stop commenting, stop talking, stop posting.

    You aren't bad people, you just don't have a clue what you're talking about.
     
  2. Blank7 Green Belt

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    No, I gave round 2 to Jones. I mean wtf, IF I'm using my own personal scoring system, I give it Reyes. But I know the judges are given a criteria to base their judgments on. I think that is the biggest difference here, people that are using their own personal system and coming to a conclusion versus people that know how judges are likely to score based on the criteria they follow. Reyes walks out of round 2 with more strikes landed, but Jones was walking him down the entire time. I was in a live chat as this fight was going on and I said the judges would give Jones that round even though Reyes won it from MY perspective.
     
  3. Zakenkashish Yellow Belt

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    ya i think jones lost this one, but ill have to watch the fight again when i have the time.
     
  4. Break Brick Black Belt

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    It's not impossible to give Jones the decision, but the gymnastics you have to use to get there, make anyone making a case for it just straight up wrong.
     
  5. Mortal Wombat Banned Banned

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    Yes they are.
     
  6. KBE6EKCTAH_CCP Vive le Québec libre !

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    It's the Sticky Belt Advantage, dude. The world is not a fair place. Move on.
     
  7. DLX thpinal

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    Watching it live, I scored 2 for Jones. While Reyes did land more, I thought Jones won more consistent minutes of that round while the majority of Reyes' strikes happened in quick blitzes.

    That being said, I completely understand why people had the first 3 for Reyes. He definitely fought his ass off and I was a bit worried for Jones that he'd lose the decision. I'll probably rewatch later and change my mind tbh.
     
  8. SteveColdStone School of Self Awareness

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    Walking him down doesn’t mean much. With the new criteria, it’s effectively worthless. With the old criteria, which was being used tonight, where pressure means a bit more, Jones’ forward pressure still doesn’t constitute winning the second round imo.
     
  9. krelianx Gold Belt

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    Agreed. And I picked Jones.
     
  10. KootenayKid Brown Belt

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    Jones pulled it out in the champ rounds. Experience clearly played it’s part imo.
     
  11. Hotei Brown Belt

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    Yeah but you count the rounds and it's still 1-2-3 for Reyes.
     
  12. Blank7 Green Belt

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    Yes, that is your opinion and it is also mines, but clearly not the opinion of the judges beholden to a criteria to base their judgment off of. So before seeing the card, and knowing the judges were more likely to score it for Jones, I knew it was going to be based on "octagon control", a criteria that dated and probably wasn't even being applied correctly.
     
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    Yeah I knew they would score it for Jones
     
  14. KootenayKid Brown Belt

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    2 was close from what I remember.
     
  15. Blank7 Green Belt

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    Yeah and I'm pretty sure it wasn't applicable in that situation, I have to watch the fight again though. I know judges don't have fight metric on their side but octagon control only comes into play if striking "appears" to be equal, I don't remember it appearing that way.
     
  16. Congo66 Silver Belt

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    Indeed and there's no crossing out on the judges cards but for some reason two of them had scored round 2 for Jones and two of them also scored round 3 for Jones.
    So it wasn't even R1 and R3 Reyes and R2, R4 and R5 Jones. The only round that all 3 judges scored for Reyes was round 1. Going into the 'championship rounds' it was 29-28, 29-28, 28-29 Reyes.
     
  17. kickpuncher Banned Banned

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    Walking down an opponent doesn't take priority over actual strikes. Reyes land more strikes in rounds 1-3, and really dictated the pace, regardless if Jon walking forward. You act like a zombie can go in there and plod forward and not land any strikes and can win the match because of his forward pressure. Fuckin retarded.
     
  18. randomg1t EVERYTIME CHAMPION

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    exactly.

    jones kept moving forward and kept getting hit. that doesn't mean he's winning the round, for fuck's sake.
     
  19. kickpuncher Banned Banned

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    Everyone knew the judges were scoring it for Jon when the UFC was showing highlights of the fight and they were like 95% of Jon landing strikes. The fix was already in.
     
  20. Blank7 Green Belt

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    Scroll up a bit and read my last reply, although given what appears to be your current level of reading comprehension, I'm not sure if that will help.
     

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