Anybody taking Piracetam

[mhalp]

Somebody mentioned Piracetam in my earlier caffeine thread.

Does anybody have any experiences with it?

Is it a a good stimulant or memory enhancer, ot just bullshit?


Thanks

 

[Jake Martin]

I tried it a while back, was not impressed. But I still had 900grams of it sitting around, so I've been taking it for about a month again every morning. ~1.2 grams or so, I'm not precise with the dosage.

Before, I was taking it with lecithin granules but now I get lecithin through my greens. I have noticed that it potentiates alcohol for me, but beyond that, not much. Supposedly you don't notice it until you're off it, the effects are so subtle. However, I will keep taking it for no good reason except I paid for it and it doesn't seem to be doing any harm, besides to my taste buds.

edit: I got into from a Something Awful thread where everyone was jerking off over the stuff, maybe it got hyped up too much for me to notice the subtleties. YMMV.

 

[roadkill]

heh. yeh. I drove down to tijuana and picked that stuff up from the pharmacia for quite awhile... but this was many many years ago. It was quite comical trying to communicate those horrrilbly unpronouncable pharmaceutical names to the druggist. Luckily I brought a backup printout of what I wanted. I don't know about now, but at that time the US customs allowed a portion of pharmaceuticals to be carried in as long as they weren't banned ('Roids, Painkillers, etc). I got it along with with a product called Hydergine. I would recommend the hydergine more than the Piracetam. Piracetam will target the glutaminergic neuropathways more so than Hydergine, which targets serotonin pathways.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydergine

All in all, I would say that most general nootropics are a good, effective, safe bet... but that specific nootropics like piracetam, hydergine, vinpocetine and huperzine may be somewhat sketchy to try and dose yourself with.

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oh btw... Albert Hoffman, the Swiss Scientist invented Hydergine, and once noted that although it (hydergine) was very effective, recipients might be expected to recieve the same benefit from 25 ug lysergic dietheylamide. You prolly know what that is.

http://www.hofmann.org/hofmann/

After completing his chemical studies, Dr. Hofmann chose a position in the pharmaceutical-chemical research laboratory of Sandoz Company in Basel, Switzerland, where he could pursue his interest in studying the medicinal potential of plants. This eventually led to the study of the alkaloids of ergot. A systematic study of the latter led to many interesting new discoveries, some with valuable medical applications, such as Hydergine, a medicament for improvement of peripheral circulation and cerebral function, applied in the control of geriatric disorders and as a "smart pill." Another product was Dihydergot, a circulation and blood pressure stabilizing medicament. Eventually the studies led to the compounding of LSD. No use was found for this compound. But five years later, an intuition led Dr. Hofmann to resynthesize LSD, leading to the famous bicycle ride in April, 1943. The potential of LSD rapidly became apparent.

 

[Jake Martin]

oh btw... Albert Hoffman, the Swiss Scientist invented Hydergine, and once noted that although it (hydergine) was very effective, recipients might be expected to recieve the same benefit from 25 ug lysergic dietheylamide. You prolly know what that is.

http://www.hofmann.org/hofmann/

I actually just read a paper by him arguing LSD's benefits for use in therapy, pretty interesting stuff. Pity that [American] society is so up-tight about the "drug culture" stigma that surrounds some of the things that could prove very useful in clinical settings.

But that's an argument for another thread!

Roadkill: Got any personal experiences revolving around Hydergine? I know there are a lot of placebo effects involved in anecdotal evidence, but it's helpful anyway.

Anybody use Oxiracetam? I've heard good things but all of it anecdotal, at best.

(Sorry for semi-hijacking the thread, OP)

 

[Reakt]

I too belive LSD has many benifits, I swear I could bench press 1/2 a tonne on that shit.

 

[CelebritySexist]

Anybody use Oxiracetam? I've heard good things but all of it anecdotal, at best.

...and it were a bloody rubbish anecdote, I can tell thee.

Used it for a few days, attack dose, allied with lecithin...felt a bit spacey occasionally, maybe something was going on upstairs but I don't have brain power to improve on in the first place. For me it was like putting lipstick on a corpse and hoping for a supermodel. I think I too remember watching the SA "goons" go neuro-shit over it, but maybe they were victims of an errant placebo hoax meme.

Bah.