i know most of my offerings in the berry are of a let's say light hearted slant but for once I'm being serious with a thread. Im sick and tired of being an illuminati labor unit, scraping from check to check. Over the past three years I've fantasized about opening a coffee and donuts shop basically some type of Panera bread/Starbucks ripoff. I've noticed that a lot of people that aren't medical doctors or something that have a lot of disposable income seem to have their own businesses. I just want to know if anybody here started a successful business by submitting a business plan to a bank and securing a start up loan.