Anybody else dislike how their original discipline is used in MMA?

[Luvhawky]

For me, I was a wrestler before I started training BJJ. And I hate watching people wrestle in MMA. The techniques are watered down and the actual techniques that are used aren't impressive (barnyard doubles, running the pipe of the fence...). There are occaisions where real skilled wrestling peaks through (Koscheck reshooting off the single against GSP in the first fight) but it is rare.

I believe this happens because other disciplines are right there on the surface removing some depth from any discipline, but this is still my hang up. Anyone else have anything similar?

 

[Luvhawky]

ttt

 

[fightdonttweet]

I'm pretty sure wrestlers who have transitioned into mma know more about what techniques are effective for mma than you do.

 

[peppo]

Jon Jones is one of the few wrestlers that make the wrestling part exciting in MMA, in my opinion. More so in his earlier fights, but he still shows some sweet moves every now and then.

 

[new_mexico1]

It's kinda unrealistic to expect the same level of sharpness and technique of a pure discipline.

 

[Luvhawky]

I'm pretty sure wrestlers who have transitioned into mma know more about what techniques are effective for mma than you do.

Not on topic at all, but thank you for your opinion. I'm sure I can use the same logic to discredit most of anything you have ever said. Not a very intelligent opinion.

 

[mudbluz]

Ya, I know what you mean. My original discipline, turning and running, hardly ever gets used, let alone used correctly.

Guida made a worthy attempt against Maynard though.

 

[Luvhawky]

It's kinda unrealistic to expect the same level of sharpness and technique of a pure discipline.

Totally agree, and I notice this with wrestling and bjj. I am just ignorant to striking when comparing to wrestling. I would love to hear about others observations regarding their disciplines.

 

[Luvhawky]

Ya, I know what you mean. My original discipline, turning and running, hardly ever gets used, let alone used correctly.

Guida made a worthy attempt against Maynard though.

So did Kalib Starnes, I say your discipline has been well represented...

 

[Bobby Creek]

Bottom Guard Ju Jitsu rarely used in the ufc. Dustin Kimora recently used and Hioki both but man rarely oh and Ben Saunders in BFC.

 

[Gregolian]

I hate to be that guy but some of the stuff you see here I doubt you will see in MMA as it just isn't feasible.


Part of what makes high end wrestling in a pure wrestling sense fun to watch is that it's two guys that KNOW how to react under certain situations. You get a judo, BJJ, or Muay Thai guy there getting slung about by a wrestler they might not need the same high end stuff they would use at a wrestling tournament.

 

[Dungrove Elder**]

I have always been one to space out, not do well at my job, and just generally mess up and make excuses so I think the judges follow my original discipline

 

[Andre Xiong]

much of the time the muay thai in UFC is junk, at the level one could see in your regional mma circuit.

 

[fightdonttweet]

Not on topic at all, but thank you for your opinion. I'm sure I can use the same logic to discredit most of anything you have ever said. Not a very intelligent opinion.

My post was exactly on topic. You are stating you dislike that mma wrestlers use certain techniques over others. I'm giving a reason why they do that. Thanks for the condescending and useless reply though.

 

[Luvhawky]

I hate to be that guy but some of the stuff you see here I doubt you will see in MMA as it just isn't feasible.


Part of what makes high end wrestling in a pure wrestling sense fun to watch is that it's two guys that KNOW how to react under certain situations. You get a judo, BJJ, or Muay Thai guy there getting slung about by a wrestler they might not need the same high end stuff they would use at a wrestling tournament.

I hear that and I agree, but I notice wrestlers abandoning techniques that should be effective at times for watered down, weight bearing moves that don't work consistently.

Like sweep singles, so rare. I think the only time I have ever seen more than one attempted in a fight was Davis vs. Little Nog. People finish sweep all the time, but initial shots are rarely sweep singles.

Couture used a low single against Tony, but no one ever attempts it from deep in the clinch.

I would love to see more of this aspect grow.

 

[BruceOnJuice]

MMA is its own sport. Things change when you have to worry about getting hit and choked. I think a lot of fans need to understand what works for pure sports may be VERY different in MMA.

 

[Luvhawky]

My post was exactly on topic. You are stating you dislike that mma wrestlers use certain techniques over others. I'm giving a reason why they do that. Thanks for the condescending and useless reply though.

Do you not understand how your response can be used against anyone stating an opinion about most things. You just discredit by saying this group is more knowledgable. Too bad you don't really see how you failed to contribute in a postive way.

 

[tomgrappler]

Its the same for all martial arts or disciplines though. You won't be able to do all wrestling techniques perfectly when your getting kneed to the face. its the same with bjj, your not going to be able to pull of the perfect armbar when your getting punched in the face

 

[laugh@u]

It's expected. That's why I find it so ridiculous when guys talk about a fighter's "World Class Boxing", because ain't no one in MMA got the Boxing skills you see in high level Boxers. If that were the case, they'd be boxing making MUCH MORE money.

 

[Luvhawky]

MMA is its own sport. Things change when you have to worry about getting hit and choked. I think a lot of fans need to understand what works for pure sports may be VERY different in MMA.

I do realize it, but it doesn't mean we use all effective wrestling techniques in MMA. It's still evolving and people are doing new things with old techniques. I think there is still a lot of room for change in the wrestling aspect of MMA.