https://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Kung_fu_%28term%29.html
Kung fu or gongfu or gung fu is a Chinese term often used in the west to refer to Chinese martial arts.[1] Its original meaning is somewhat different, referring to one's expertise in any skill achieved through hard work and practice, not necessarily martial.
If we go by the definition of "Kung Fu" = "martial art," then yes, it is "Kung Fu."
However, if we're referring to "Kung Fu" as in traditional Chinese Kung Fu styles (e.g. animal styles, Shaolin, Drunken boxing, etc.), then San Shou is not Kung Fu.
San Shou is a simplified, modernized military combat system developed by the Communist Chinese Army with the help from Communist Soviet Union's combat Sambo coaches. It's a system where they combined kickboxing (Muay Thai) with some basic throws:
http://www.sanshouuk.co.uk/history.html
"The Soviet military and the creators of Sambo felt a sport form was needed which could be safely practiced on a regular basis. This would also incorporate modern advancements in sports medicine and training methodology. All of which taught to them under the guidance of a skilled coach.
Under the tutelage of Soviet advisors, the Chinese endeavored to create a similar method of training their military forces. The program was perhaps more important to the Chinese who lacked an industrial base and access to most modern warfare technology. The Whampoa military instructors who studied the traditional martial art styles combined them with the modern training methods and created Sanshou and the decision was made to use a Kickboxing like format when practiced."
He also studied San Shou techniques, too, if I'm not mistaken. His leg catch/sweep is one example I can think of:
I don't have Bruce Lee's book, so I can't say whether or not that quote came from there. But let's say that - for the sake of the discussion - that Bruce Lee did in fact say, "Someone who trains boxing and wrestling for one year would beat a martial artist of 20 years experience."
Would he be wrong in your opinion?
Or do you think he is spot on with that statement, judging by what we are seeing now in modern MMA at the highest level?
I don't think Bruce Lee ever denied the importance of kicking. And as far as I know, Bruce Lee was the first and ONLY traditional martial artist who broke out of the rigidity of tradition and ethnocentric way of thinking and emphasized the importance of cross training and learn everything that is useful, regardless whether it is from Karate, Judo, boxing, wrestling, fencing, etc..
You're right. There are no successful single stylists in MMA any more. However, that is not the same thing as saying that all styles are equally effective and important as bases in modern MMA.
Standup striking:
All MMA fighters must train
kickboxing/
boxing or they're going to get beaten in the standup and will never win a championship. (Even Machida's, Pettis' full time striking coaches are kickboxing coaches.)
An MMA fighter can train only kickboxing/boxing for his standup and win championship. However, if an MMA fighter trains only Karate, TKD, or any other form of standup striking, he will not be able to compete against the top level fighters and win a championship.
Standup/ground grappling:
All MMA fighters must train
wrestling or they're going to get tossed around and smothered on the ground, and they will never win a championship. (All current champions have excellent wrestling/wrestling defense)
There is no substitute for wrestling when it comes to standup/ground grappling (non submission). If an MMA fighter trains only Judo, he won't get very far. On the other hand, if an MMA fighter trains only wrestling, he would still be able to win championship. Of course, it's best to train both. The point is one is fundamentally necessary (wrestling), and the other one is not (Judo).
Ground/submission grappling:
All MMA fighters must train
BJJ for ground fighting, or they're going to get submitted.
From what I have seen, there are usually some overlapping techniques across different martial arts. The side kick is a perfect example. It is found in karate, TKD, Kung Fu, Sambo, Capoeira, and many more.
Is it useful because it's from Chinese Kung Fu, or Karate, or Capoeria? Or is it useful because, like Bruce Lee said, "humans have two arms and two legs," and there are only so many effective ways to punch and kick?
I came from a TMA background (Shorin Ryu Karate, TKD, and Kung Fu), so it's my understanding that the word "styles" in TMAs has a different meaning than "styles" in, say, wrestling.
For example, in Kung Fu, "styles" refers more to the
form of the martial arts in question, how it looks - basically the focus is on its appearance. (e.g. different animal style Kung Fu). There is more emphasis on the
aesthetic and beauty of their appearance rather than their practicality.
On the other hand, in wrestling, there are "free style" wrestling and "Greco Roman" wrestling. When speaking about different "styles" of wrestling, the emphasis is on the
practical application of different techniques. Freestyle uses leg takedowns, whereas Greco Roman focuses on the clinching of the upper torso for takedowns.
So getting back to your original comment, "styles don't matter":
If we're speaking about "styles" in terms of their aesthetic appearance in the many forms of Kung Fu, then styles don't matter (for real fighting).
However, if we're speaking about "styles" in the practical sense, as in Freestyle wrestling vs Greco Roman wrestling, then yes, styles matter. If an MMA fighter trains Greco and not Freestyle, then he would be missing out on learning how to effectively use leg takedowns.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you kept mentioning Chinese martial arts, and it's my impression that, no offense, but you're stuck in the typical TMA mindset of "East vs. West."
Jones is a big fan of Bruce Lee's "no style" philosophy.
This is evident in the way he does unorthodox attacks, not for the sake to look pretty like a lot of Chinese martial arts, which focus on styles. Jone's attacks - e.g. spinning elbow, shoulder bump, kick to the thigh - are focused on being effective due to their unpredictability (or as Bruce Lee said, "be formless").
Bruce Lee's martial art philosophy was to break away from rigid traditions and formalities (ie Chinese martial art tradition) and ultimately self limitation, by being open-minded in studying western boxing, wrestling, and everything else that he thought were effective for fighting, no matter where they came from, which was TOTALLY against Chinese martial art culture.
Many of his fans (except Jones) don't realize this. Bruce Lee wasn't an advocate of Chinese (or any one single country's) martial arts. He was an advocate of MMA.