Any experience with shoulder injuries?

My doctor basically just told me "There are no breaks, go home". I asked for an MRI and he said there was no need because I have full motion. Maybe I should pursuit it?

I call bullshit. I never met a doctor who denied care if you were willing to pay for it with insurance. Shit the more he does to you the more he gets paid.
 
I call bullshit. I never met a doctor who denied care if you were willing to pay for it with insurance. Shit the more he does to you the more he gets paid.


You live in the US, he doesn't. Different health care systems.
 
I call bullshit. I never met a doctor who denied care if you were willing to pay for it with insurance. Shit the more he does to you the more he gets paid.


Different system in the UK. A doctor is paid a set salary. The doctor is a nice guy by the way. It's just his hands are tied. It's not unusual for people to have to wait a long time for treatment. The NHS is essentially a good thing because we get treated for free and do not need health insurance (we pay high taxes for this) however it is definatley flawed.
 
Look at the wonderful changes in healthcare we have to look forward to.:icon_neut
 
Look at the wonderful changes in healthcare we have to look forward to.:icon_neut



I live in Denmark and our health care system makes the one in the UK look like the free market. I waited 5-6 days for my MRI (when they finally accepted that I should have one). Your overgeneralization is silly. Don't be so afraid of change.
 
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Pursue an MRI, even if you have full motion. I had full motion after I dislocated my shoulder boxing, but I realized I shredded my rotator cuff after I got the MRI.
 
The OP got screwed even my family doctor can tell when my shoulder arthritis is flaring up just from passively moving my arm around. My ortho is not a surgeon and he works out a lot so I'm thankfull to have someone who is squared away.
 
Yeah, X-Ray = shit with shoulder injury. I had a separated A/C joint, class 3 plus, when I was in the Marine Corps. The X-Ray didn't show any broken bone, so I was given 2 weeks of "light duty" and some Tylenol. 3 months later, when it didn't get any better, my clavicle was actually poking up through my skin. Long story short, I spent 8 months with a separated, arthritic joint, and now I'm semi-disabled for the rest of my life. If it was a bad slam, I'd fork out the money, and get an MRI, that way they can see what's actually wrong with your muscles/joints. If you have an indentation, it's probably a sign of bone travel/movement due to the weakened ligaments. Get that shit checked out man! Good luck
Damn military doctors, I know the ones in the Army are just as bad. The good old cure all 800mg Motrin and see you in two weeks.
 
Im defimatley goin to take the MRI. I'll keep you posted on when I get it. Could be a while lol. I think i'll go down and roll light with Braulio next week. It's not like the result will be affected.
 
Just though I would update. Finally got my MRI date for this March! I'm not sure how much point there is at this point but I may as well go for it.
 
18 months later? Christ, that is disgraceful. Like, complain-to-your-MP disgraceful.
 
good luck man.

shoulder injuries are about as bad as they get. i had to give up a lot of activities from mine.
 
Thanks guys. I wll keep you all posted. I was thinking someone else who searches for Sholder injury down the line and comes accross the thread may appreciate resolution!

The wait for an MRI was really bad. The NHS in NI is a disgrace at the minute.
 
My doctor basically just told me "There are no breaks, go home". I asked for an MRI and he said there was no need because I have full motion. Maybe I should pursuit it?

get an MRI, i had one on my arm and it showed i needed surgery. if you have any questions about surgery PM me, but so far its been fine and im feeling better than ever
 
March? It's mid-January and it's been months since the injury. WTF?
 
What you're describing sounds like an AC joint injury, most likely a partial seperation. The abnormality on the shoulder, which you indicated in the OP, along with the pain experienced doing cross chest movements are consistant with that. I think it's a fairly common injury associated with BJJ.
 
Just for the information of people not too familiar with the British health system... it is essentially a "dual stream". Everyone is entitled to treatment on the National Health Service, and you can also have a private plan.

The public/universal system works pretty well for access to General Practitioners and for emergency treatment of any kind- if you are busted up and rushed into a hospital you well get in general very good quality treatment and the issue of insurance will never, ever be brought up. However, if you have a non-life threatening condition, you may wait 3-18 months to get access to a specialist if you depend on the public/universal system. By contrast, those with private insurance coverage will typically be able to access the same specialist care in 2-3 weeks.

One way of comparing the UK system to the US system is that UK citizens have access to private health care which is more-or-less as good as US health care, but significantly cheaper. But it also has free/universal health care that gives good primary health care and first-rate emergency health care, and so-so health care in other areas. That's not too bad for a country where the tax burden is somewhere around a mid-point between the US on the one hand, and France & Germany on the other.

It's also worth noting that the US system is really not that much to write home about. IIRC, when the US is compared to other OECD countries in some measures and for some disease outcomes it scores very well, but for others it scores quite poorly. However, US citizens pay 2.5x or 3x as much for what ultimately emerges as very similar quality health care to the other most developed members of the OECD. When you factor in the number of people in the US without access to healthcare, it's not a pretty picture. Comparative study of health care systems is a fairly large and complex field, but I am reasonably sure that I summarize the research reasonably accurately.

Anyway... all this is distracting me from what is truly important: watching WSM 2011.
 
Shit when my doctor wanted a MRI he sent me downstairs and I got one.

In the US military doctors are our version of European doctors. They make a set salary and are generally people who had to get the military to pay for their schooling. Tell you what though the trama surgeons get the best training in the world.

When my dad was in Viet-nam he went to see an Air Force doctor because his feet kept swelling up in the humidity. The doctor wanted to cut his feet off so my dad found a doctor willing to settle for a discharge.
 
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