any comments? -much apreciated

[shouldercharge]

first off this is probably in the wrong are but i couldnt find anywhere apropriate for it

im 5'7 94kg 17-18%bf 23 y/old did tkd for three years but that was a while ago(close to 10 years)
this is my proposed training and diet schedule.

everyday
wake up 5.30am
protien shake with 1 1/2 teaspoons creatine grape fruit
run 4.2ish miles
wheet-bix with fat free yoghurt
work 7-11
wholegrain rice and tuna or tuna salad

monday
university 12-2
cofee
gym2.30-3.30
university 4-5
fruit and yoghurt
judo 6-7.30
dinner

tuesday
mma 12-2
fruit and yoghurt
uni 3-5
dinner
6 muay thai
protein shake fruit cheese crackers

wensday
uni12-4
fruit and yoghurt
6-7.30 alternate weekly between tkd and judo
dinner

thursday
muay thai 12-1.30
fruit and yoghurt protein shake
2-4university
dinner
6mma
cheese fruit crackers

friday
study
coffe
gym
diet much the same
5pm tkd

weekends
diet much the same no work sunday
no morning runs
possibly swim sat afternoon
and maybe western boxing class sunday morning.

dinner usually consists of chicken breast or moderate serving of lean meat,cup of veges and either wholegrain rice,pasta or potatoes.

i know its alot and will be careful to eat enough and get enough rest if its too much for me will drop running off on tuesdays and thursdays.
im wary that tkd and muay thai may intefere with each other but if i concentrate at trainings and am careful will it be ok?

basically im doing the lot for fun and fitness
i really want to take muay thai and mma especially for the improved self defence
but to be honest i think i would be far more likely to compete in tkd and judo atleast at the moment i do.(may compete in something like inspirit later on but its just for fun dont want to risk any major injuries)
also believe the judo and grappling element in the MMA will help my tackling in league

im currently doing no MA just running and strength training and play rugby league training twice a week and games on saturdays,will be doing this once league finishes.
thoughts?
thanks alot for any constructive comments

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

how long between the morning shake and the run?

also you're pretty stocky for being 5'7

 

[shouldercharge]

not long 10-15mins

and yea i am was 90kg 20%bf a couple of months ago.
alot of people are suprised at how heavy i am my fitness is very good though(13.7 beep test) but yea definately stocky build

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

can i assume you need that size for your rugby? or are you looking to trim down?

im 6' even and i was approx 95kgs a year ago, i had taken approx 2 year off from kickboxing and started muay thai again and am now down to 88kgs.

my goal is to get down to 84/85kgs and in order to do that i have incorporated the following workout

monday/wednesday/friday - Muay Thai - generally 1.5 hours training

tuesday/thursday/saturday - i alternate the following two workouts

30-40mins weight lifting - followed by 25 mins jump rope - weights are not heavy at all and with minimal rest between sets - this is what i do

1st day
-30 bas rutten pushups (kind with elbows in close) + 20 regular but inclined
-tricep dips until failure
-50 (each leg) lunges (incline) - no weights

repeat for 3 sets each only adding weights to lunges

then

-25 reps bench press - start off with 25kgs
-25 repstricep curls - start off with 10kgs
-squats - no weights on first set

repeat for 3 sets adding weights to each

2nd day
-25 seated lat pulldowns - start off with 10kg
-25 bicep curls - start off with 10kg
-shoulder raises with only 5lb each hand but until faillure

repeat for 3 sets adding weight to pulldowns and curls

then

-25 deadlifts using benchpress bar only
-25 preacher curls using benchpress bar only
-25 shoulder lifts using benchpress bar only

repeat for 3 sets adding minimal weight

then i end off doing 3 sets of seated military presses (shoulders) with max 35lbs until failure.

 

[shouldercharge]

i would like to trim down a bit but also get a bit stronger,weight doesnt worry me too much infact i think it would be good to stay where i'm at now or around there (no less than 90) basically lose fat and put on muscle (could do with losing the belly lol-earnt by drinking faaar too much beer)

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

then i would recommend something similar to my workout, but with more focus on the lifting.

 

[jordan485**]

yer sounds good

just make sure u get 2x the protein in grams per bodywieght kg

so if ya way 70kg make sure u eat no less then 140grams of protein a day

n cos of ur hetik training make sure u down those complex carbs boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

 

[shouldercharge]

ok so what do people think of the mix of judo,muay thai,tkd,and mma

with the odd session of bjj or boxing every once in a while?

complex carbs=whole grain rice and pasta???

 

[shouldercharge]

i'll post my weight training programmes on monday. luck it seems yours is heavily foscussed on endurance correct?

does my combination of arts seem good for;fitness,self defence and stand up grappling(aid in rugby tackling technique) ?
thanks

 

[Jessi.2]

Personally I would not have coffee right before you go to the gym. It will dehydrate you a lot quicker and pump your heart rate up which will mess with your pulse readings as well as make you feel a little funny. (At least in my experience) I have also seem guys drop a lot faster and lose steam if they had coffee right before a workout.

 

[Rudy Richter]

ok so what do people think of the mix of judo,muay thai,tkd,and mma

with the odd session of bjj or boxing every once in a while?

complex carbs=whole grain rice and pasta???

How long are you planning on doing this? I wish you the best, but I suspect that you are heading for a major burnout if you do what you wrote literally because going to school unless it's some BS like early child hood education or psychology is hard enough. You have to think about stuff like cooking, doing chores like dishes and a ton of laundry from training unless you live like a pig or have your mom/wife picking up after you....

 

[shouldercharge]

thanks for the help guys,keep it coming.
i'll lay off the coffee before gym and see how i feel basically i just do it for an energy boost,can anybody reccomend something better?

yea im going to be very careful of over training if i find that i'm not coping will knock off some of the training as much as i need to probably running first and then if i have to some of the mma or judo training.i do still live at home and have my lundry done but do try and help out where i can.

 

[cXs808]

thanks for the help guys,keep it coming.
i'll lay off the coffee before gym and see how i feel basically i just do it for an energy boost,can anybody reccomend something better?

yea im going to be very careful of over training if i find that i'm not coping will knock off some of the training as much as i need to probably running first and then if i have to some of the mma or judo training.i do still live at home and have my lundry done but do try and help out where i can.

Do you really. honestly.

 

[shouldercharge]

yes,yes i do do you have anything worthwhile to add?

 

[Jessi.2]

I heard red bull works to haven't tried it. I think energy boosters can be harmful if you have right before training. I know some fighters to swear by red bull but I know they have it about 1-2 hours before. Do you drink protein shakes? Although it is not necessarily going to give you energy it will sustain your body throughout the workout.

 

[Jessi.2]

How long are you planning on doing this? I wish you the best, but I suspect that you are heading for a major burnout if you do what you wrote literally because going to school unless it's some BS like early child hood education or psychology is hard enough. You have to think about stuff like cooking, doing chores like dishes and a ton of laundry from training unless you live like a pig or have your mom/wife picking up after you....

And Yes burnouts do happen. I went to school full time until I graduated in may and trained 10+ hours with the occasional run. If you find yourself stressed it is not worth it. I would start slow and work your way up. Research everything. Start with the little things such as food choice/stretching/maybe a jog 2-3 times a week and a class or two. We all would like to think we can go 0 to 100 but in reality your body and mind needs to adjust.

 

[TheAth-ah-lete]

Go to the Strength and Power, Conditiong, and Diet and Nutrition forums and read the FAQ's. All of your questions and more will be answered.

There's a lot of ignorance goin' on in this thread.

 

[Jessi.2]

Go to the Strength and Power, Conditiong, and Diet and Nutrition forums and read the FAQ's. All of your questions and more will be answered.

There's a lot of ignorance goin' on in this thread.

Everybody has their own opinion and way of doing things. Most of us have been training for a long time and our knowledge is based on our experience. I could point you to other threads but you can look at those yourself. Just trying to help. Just because I don't have avatar black belt doesn't mean that I am not one or my opinion is less valid.

 

[TheAth-ah-lete]

Everybody has their own opinion and way of doing things. Most of us have been training for a long time and our knowledge is based on our experience. I could point you to other threads but you can look at those yourself. Just trying to help. Just because I don't have avatar black belt doesn't mean that I am not one or my opinion is less valid.

I apologize. I was actually sitting on the couch thinking about what I should have said rather than what I did. What I SHOULD have said was,

"Go read the FAQ's in all of the training forums. You are already headed in the right direction by wanting to improve and realizing that hard training is going to achieve those results. If you couple that positive attitude with proper diet and excercise you will definitely see the results that you want.

 

[Jessi.2]

I apologize. I was actually sitting on the couch thinking about what I should have said rather than what I did. What I SHOULD have said was,

"Go read the FAQ's in all of the training forums. You are already headed in the right direction by wanting to improve and realizing that hard training is going to achieve those results. If you couple that positive attitude with proper diet and excercise you will definitely see the results that you want.

Everyone has experience and brings a lot to the forums. Because of the quality of the posts is the reason I joined. Ath-ah-lete is right there are awesome threads that will teach you more than most other websites and may even prove some people's opinions wrong :wink:. Good Luck you are definitely on the right path.