Social Anti-vax MegaThread

[snakedafunky]

I think that is incorrect doesn't Finland have the lowest rate?
Because they send out those baby boxes newborns can sleep in.

 

[IDL]

I think that is incorrect doesn't Finland have the lowest rate?
Because they send out those baby boxes newborns can sleep in.

The frozen wasteland kills the germs and makes babies powerful!

 

[Spoken]

Above average flu, measles, and high in other diseases...Japan is tryin to inoculate people more, lol

 

[lts5025]

Japan is the only industrialized country with measles epidemics.

 

[Seaside]

Japan is an awesome country. Like 99% homogenous, island country and far away from sh!tholes of the world. Oh do i feel bad for italy and greece.

All efficient, beautiful, not PC, screw libearlism it is a mental disorder and as done by cultural marxists in west would destroy the beautiful proud japanese people and heritage and culture.

 

[Spoken]

Japan is an awesome country. Like 99% homogenous, island country and far away from sh!tholes of the world. Oh do i feel bad for italy and greece.

All efficient, beautiful, not PC, screw libearlism it is a mental disorder and as done by cultural marxists in west would destroy the beautiful proud japanese people and heritage and culture.

You strike me as the kind of guy that doesn’t know what cultural Marxism is. And given how industry, sexuality, and traditionalism have been twist dnin japan, it fits quite well with the definition of liberalism.
Japan is one of the most ill first world countries

 

[Seaside]

You strike me as the kind of guy that doesn’t know what cultural Marxism is. And given how industry, sexuality, and traditionalism have been twist dnin japan, it fits quite well with the definition of liberalism.
Japan is one of the most ill first world countries

oh i know. But japan is not self hating or destroying it self. They are a little weird sexually though but i have understood this to be recent to their history historically. Japanese i have met are nothing like these gross anglos who scream and cry and say they 100 different genders and complain all time.

I have not been to america yet but everyday on here i see people post videos and opinion pieces by the insane left in the western world or what is taking over the left. It a shame

 

[gassius_clay]

I would expect vaccines to be less important in a small isolated nation like Japan. However, if they do wind up with an outbreak I'm sure it will be nasty.

 

[Spoken]

oh i know. But japan is not self hating or destroying it self. They are a little weird sexually though but i have understood this to be recent to their history historically. Japanese i have met are nothing like these gross anglos who scream and cry and say they 100 different genders and complain all time.

I have not been to america yet but everyday on here i see people post videos and opinion pieces by the insane left in the western world or what is taking over the left. It a shame

Yeah... the media you’re attuned to doesn’t represent anything as it is. Sure, shifts in self identification is changing in the West. I’m not for it... but the West has a tradition to draw from to correct it. All of the stuff that weird about contemporary culture regarding sexuality is new...
Japan, however, doesn’t have tools to correct itself. It’s chained to modern technology in ways upend authentic human experience.

And it’s work force in a generation or two....yikes.

 

[BangersAndSmash]

oh i know. But japan is not self hating or destroying it self.

On the contrary..
https://www.humanium.org/en/child-suicide-in-japan-the-leading-cause-of-death-in-children/

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/07/health/japan-child-population-record-low-intl/index.html

 

[Ophydian]

They already have 100 cases of measles. They also had that huge flu pandemic. The Japanese May live longest and that may be due to genes or diet. To claim it’s because they don’t vaccinate is ridiculous.

And it’s not as if the entire island is vaccine free. People still get them.

 

[VivaRevolution]

The vaccine debate is so awesome. It really is a case study for the good lie.

 

[Andy Capp]

Fact: Japan has the lowest infant mortality rate following ban on mandatory vaccinations, they urge other countries to follow this firm stance

The citizens of Japan are statistically proven to be the healthiest and longest-living people in the world. The country also has the lowest infant mortality rate on the planet. It may come as no surprise to many that the Japanese Government banned a number of vaccines that are currently mandatory in the United States and has strict regulations in place for other Big Pharma drugs and vaccines in general. Japan’s anti-vax policies have long been criticised by vaccine pushers in the US who claim that vaccinating the public “promotes health.”

However, Japanese people live longer, healthier lives than Americans, with babies born in the US twice as likely to die in infancy than those born in Japan....

More than 9 billion US dollars have been awarded for vaccine injuries alone last year in the USA and consider that those are the ones that could afford to take the time and vast sums of money needed to take a case through the entire legal system. When you imagine how difficult and costly it is on your pocket and your health making a claim, whilst also caring for a child with vaccine damage? Imagine how many more cases could have been proven and won, where the system easier to deal with and less costly…

Who knows if their vaccine policy is the sole reason, but does this not suggest we need more information on the multiple vaccines American children are expected to receive?

Not only is it not likely to be the sole reason, it's likely to not be the reason at all. The second to last paragraph also does not represent a convincing argument that policies related to vaccination explain the differences between nations. In the US in particular, some states have 3rd world infant mortality rates and it surely has fuck all to do with vaccination rates. Just compare with Canada.

Canada's success preventing infant mortality has been slipping, as have vaccination rates. How do you explain the opposite effect in Canada compared with Japan?

Seems like a lot of, ahem, statistics.

 

[The Sole Survivor]

Just goes to show everything has pros and cons.

Lets say this is 100 percent true for arguments sake, would you;

rather live a longer life, but possibly sick more often

or

Would you take a chance at dying to live a shorter life being less sick.

 

[IDL]

Just goes to show everything has pros and cons.

Lets say this is 100 percent true for arguments sake, would you;

rather live a longer life, but possibly sick more often

or

Would you take a chance at dying to live a shorter life being less sick.

Are they actually more sick in general? I guess that would be hard to determine.

 

[dannialn]

so this is USA's vaccination program:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html

and this is Japan's:
https://www.jpeds.or.jp/uploads/files/JPS Vaccine Schedule 20170115 ENGLISH.pdf

They are practically the same.
wtf are you talking about TS?

 

[The Sole Survivor]

Are they actually more sick in general? I guess that would be hard to determine.

Thats why I said for arguments sake, just assume what everything the article said is true, that would be a hard choice.

 

[IDL]

Thats why I said for arguments sake, just assume what everything the article said is true, that would be a hard choice.

Fair enough, then it would depend on to what extent you'd be more sick. If it is say, a month extra over your life time and in return you get a few extra years then I'd probably take being more sick.

If it is some crippling illness then probably not though.

 

[The Sole Survivor]

Fair enough, then it would depend on to what extent you'd be more sick. If it is say, a month extra over your life time and in return you get a few extra years then I'd probably take being more sick.

If it is some crippling illness then probably not though.

See and that would be the argument as it all depends on what type of illness you get. Are you getting the common cold/flu more? Sure, thats no problem or are you getting something more serious.... That can kill you and/or others.

 

[Ophydian]

so this is USA's vaccination program:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html

and this is Japan's:
https://www.jpeds.or.jp/uploads/files/JPS Vaccine Schedule 20170115 ENGLISH.pdf

They are practically the same.
wtf are you talking about TS?

I believe Japan’s is purely voluntary meaning that children’s can still go to school even though they have not been vaccinated.

The thread title and substance also would make would be suspicious as The TS claims that Japan is anti-vaccine but fails to show how anti-vaccine compared to other nations. Nor does it show correlation between periods of time Japan did require vaccine and mortality rates.