Media Anthony Pettis old Docu
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Come on dude. Youtube isn't that difficult to figure out. You have a search bar and you just have to type in what you're looking for.
Also lol. I've seen this hundreds of times and I never knew that this wasn't a walk away KO.
Also lol. I've seen this hundreds of times and I never knew that this wasn't a walk away KO.
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I don't know how many newer MMA enthusiasts realize that Pettis had a huuuge fanbase here between 2010 and 2015, when he lost his belt to RDA...
He was often listed as a potential 5th finger of the GOAT hand, and his place as number 2 LW GOAT behind BJ Penn
(since that was before Khabib took over as consensus n°1)
seemed like something that would stick.
He was one of the first modern American stars, the Wheaties deal might sound like a meme today
but back then they wouldn't put a MMA guy on anything in the states, no one gave a shit about it
After defending his LW title against Strikeforce mega-champ Gilbert "El Nino" Melendez (who had defended his LW title 6 times against fellow SF top fighters, and then came over to the UFC to challenge Bendo, and even if he lost a split decision, a LOT of people
(half the medias)
scored the fight for Melendez.
So after coming back from that "loss", Giblert laid a FOTN smackdown on a game Diego Sanchez
who was coming of a BS split decision win against Gomi, that every single MMA media scored to the Fireball Kid
and he got that title fight against Showtime Pettis, was the SF champ, the 4th member of the core Scrap Pack going to be the one to dethrone the Sherdog favorite & acrobatic kicking submission artist?
Nope.
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Nope, he didn't.
It's a shame that he's been forgotten to the point that when talking about LW GOATs, in the last big thread on the subject, he wasn't even in most peoples top 5, or at the very bottom.
Sure, Pettis lost a lot of fights at the end of his career, with the odd great win here and there (Wonderboy Thompson, Charles Oliveira... and some solid wins over Michael Chiesa, Alex Morono, and Jim Miller when he was on a solid streak, 3-1 in his last 4 and his only loss was a very close majority decision against Poirier)
But BJ Penn also lost a lot at the end of his career and his fans don't hold that against him.
Oh well, I'm glad Showtime got to show off his boxing skills at Gamebred's against Roy Jones Jr
He was often listed as a potential 5th finger of the GOAT hand, and his place as number 2 LW GOAT behind BJ Penn
(since that was before Khabib took over as consensus n°1)
seemed like something that would stick.
He was one of the first modern American stars, the Wheaties deal might sound like a meme today
but back then they wouldn't put a MMA guy on anything in the states, no one gave a shit about it
After defending his LW title against Strikeforce mega-champ Gilbert "El Nino" Melendez (who had defended his LW title 6 times against fellow SF top fighters, and then came over to the UFC to challenge Bendo, and even if he lost a split decision, a LOT of people
(half the medias)
scored the fight for Melendez.
So after coming back from that "loss", Giblert laid a FOTN smackdown on a game Diego Sanchez
who was coming of a BS split decision win against Gomi, that every single MMA media scored to the Fireball Kid
and he got that title fight against Showtime Pettis, was the SF champ, the 4th member of the core Scrap Pack going to be the one to dethrone the Sherdog favorite & acrobatic kicking submission artist?
Nope.
Nope, he didn't.
It's a shame that he's been forgotten to the point that when talking about LW GOATs, in the last big thread on the subject, he wasn't even in most peoples top 5, or at the very bottom.
Sure, Pettis lost a lot of fights at the end of his career, with the odd great win here and there (Wonderboy Thompson, Charles Oliveira... and some solid wins over Michael Chiesa, Alex Morono, and Jim Miller when he was on a solid streak, 3-1 in his last 4 and his only loss was a very close majority decision against Poirier)
But BJ Penn also lost a lot at the end of his career and his fans don't hold that against him.
Oh well, I'm glad Showtime got to show off his boxing skills at Gamebred's against Roy Jones Jr
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Could you link it maybe? I couldn't find it on Youtube... I think I've seen it back then, but wouldn't mind rewatching that.
edit: oops, didn't see you'd already been called out
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I don't know how many newer MMA enthusiasts realize that Pettis had a huuuge fanbase here between 2010 and 2015, when he lost his belt to RDA...
He was often listed as a potential 5th finger of the GOAT hand, and his place as number 2 LW GOAT behind BJ Penn seemed like something that would stick.
He was one of the first modern American stars, the Wheaties deal might sound like a meme today
but back then they wouldn't put a MMA guy on anything in the states, no one gave a shit about it
After defending his LW title against Strikeforce mega-champ Gilbert "El Nino" Melendez (who had defended his LW title 6 times against fellow SF top fighters, and then came over to the UFC to challenge Bendo, and even if he lost a split decision, a LOT of people
(half the medias)
scored the fight for Melendez.
So after coming back from that "loss", Giblert laid a FOTN smackdown on a game Diego Sanchez
who was coming of a BS split decision win against Gomi, that every single MMA media scored to the Fireball Kid
and he got that title fight against Showtime Pettis, was the SF champ, the 4th member of the core Scrap Pack going to be the one to dethrone the Sherdog favorite & acrobatic kicking submission artist?
Nope.
Nope, he didn't.
It's a shame that he's been forgotten to the point that when talking about LW GOATs, in the last big thread on the subject, he wasn't even in most peoples top 5, or at the very bottom.
Sure, Pettis lost a lot of fights at the end of his career, with the odd great win here and there (Wonderboy Thompson, Charles Oliveira... and some solid wins over Michael Chiesa, Alex Morono, and Jim Miller when he was on a solid streak, 3-1 in his last 4 and his only loss was a very close majority decision against Poirier)
But BJ Penn also lost a lot at the end of his career and his fans don't hold that against him.
Oh well, I'm glad Showtime got to show off his boxing skills at Gamebred's against Roy Jones Jr
I think many people overlook Anthony because he lost convincingly while In his prime.
He also never got back in a solid win streak after losing the belt, and was losing to lesser competition that everyone expected him to beat.
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Thanks for posting this ts ....
...not hi jacking your thread but if anyone has link s for mma documentaries could you dm me some.
I'm lay up in the hospital recovering for a few weeks and bored already after two weeks !
For some reason the hospital won't let me on YouTube but everything else works.
...not hi jacking your thread but if anyone has link s for mma documentaries could you dm me some.
I'm lay up in the hospital recovering for a few weeks and bored already after two weeks !
For some reason the hospital won't let me on YouTube but everything else works.
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For your first point, indeed he did, but who didn't? (I mean, except for Khabib, Phillip Miller and Jon Jones... and all the other undefeated guys)
Speaking of Khabib, I just realized that I listed BJ Penn as the LW GOAT, but in Sherpolls, Khabib is usually number 1, and BJ is usually number 2. <{chips}>
Anyway, I'm not arguing for Pettis to be top 3 LW or something like that, but... like, lots of people tend to rank Bendo above Pettis when it comes to LW GOAT top 10.
I'm not saying it's some crazy take, but to use your criteria, Bendo also never got back in a solid win streak after losing the belt, and also lost to lesser competition he was expected to beat.
Plus the guys Pettis was losing to in the UFC after his belt got taken by RDA were mostly elites, like right after losing the belt he foughe Eddie Alvarez, and lost a very controversial split decision that half the medias scored for "Showtime"
Pettis then:
-lost a decision against prime Barboza
- lost a FW title match against prime Max Holloway (right before Max finished Aldo twice in a row, he was on fire at that time),
- lost to prime Dustin Poirier (he was on his crazy run between his losses to Michael Johnson & Khabib, when he beat Eddie Alvarez for 2 rounds before kneeing him in the head on the ground, so it was a NC, but Poirier had won the first 2 rounds... then he finished Pettis, Gaethje, Alvarez again, and won a decision again Max Holloway)
- lost via corner stoppage (broken hand) against prime Tony Ferguson while he was on his crazy run, between 2 attempts at fighting Khabib for the belt. And even if the cause of the stoppage was a broken hand, Pettis was also losing the fight, except when he cracked Tony good at the beginning of round 2.
- Lost to Nate Diaz via decision (right after the Conor McGregor duology, when Diaz still cared)
- Lost to Carlos Ferreira, I don't have an excuse made up for that one yet.
Anyway, you can always make excuses for losses, it doesn't matter who the fighter is, but when it comes to his UFC losses, Pettis actually seems to be one of these guys that can't be accused of having faced neither "green" nor "washed up" competition.
I have to go right now, but later if I find that recent poll of LW GOAT top 10 I was thinking about earlier, I'll try to compare his accomplishments to others who are regularly ranked above him.
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I agree with you that Pettit should be looked at with more respect. It’s unfortunate he doesn’t get the shine and I can only assumeFor your first point, indeed he did, but who didn't? (I mean, except for Khabib, Phillip Miller and Jon Jones... and all the other undefeated guys)
Speaking of Khabib, I just realized that I listed BJ Penn as the LW GOAT, but in Sherpolls, Khabib is usually number 1, and BJ is usually number 2. <{chips}>
Anyway, I'm not arguing for Pettis to be top 3 LW or something like that, but... like, lots of people tend to rank Bendo above Pettis when it comes to LW GOAT top 10.
I'm not saying it's some crazy take, but to use your criteria, Bendo also never got back in a solid win streak after losing the belt, and also lost to lesser competition he was expected to beat.
Plus the guys Pettis was losing to in the UFC after his belt got taken by RDA were mostly elites, like right after losing the belt he foughe Eddie Alvarez, and lost a very controversial split decision that half the medias scored for "Showtime"
Pettis then:
-lost a decision against prime Barboza
- lost a FW title match against prime Max Holloway (right before Max finished Aldo twice in a row, he was on fire at that time),
- lost to prime Dustin Poirier (he was on his crazy run between his losses to Michael Johnson & Khabib, when he beat Eddie Alvarez for 2 rounds before kneeing him in the head on the ground, so it was a NC, but Poirier had won the first 2 rounds... then he finished Pettis, Gaethje, Alvarez again, and won a decision again Max Holloway)
- lost via corner stoppage (broken hand) against prime Tony Ferguson while he was on his crazy run, between 2 attempts at fighting Khabib for the belt. And even if the cause of the stoppage was a broken hand, Pettis was also losing the fight, except when he cracked Tony good at the beginning of round 2.
- Lost to Nate Diaz via decision (right after the Conor McGregor duology, when Diaz still cared)
- Lost to Carlos Ferreira, I don't have an excuse made up for that one yet.
Anyway, you can always make excuses for losses, it doesn't matter who the fighter is, but when it comes to his UFC losses, Pettis actually seems to be one of these guys that can't be accused of having faced neither "green" nor "washed up" competition.
I have to go right now, but later if I find that recent poll of LW GOAT top 10 I was thinking about earlier, I'll try to compare his accomplishments to others who are regularly ranked above him.
It’s because he lost and never got hits Groove back. The wrestling deficit also made him look vulnerable in people’s eyes.
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Pettis was the man back in the day, I think a lot of guys don't understand how crazy RDA dominating him really was during that time.
Almost like if Izzy would get crushed by Dolidze or sth.
Almost like if Izzy would get crushed by Dolidze or sth.
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And whats even worse is that these nerds get rich by sitting in their lazy gaming chair and talking over videos they didnt even make.
Ffs..
And whats even worse is that these nerds get rich by sitting in their lazy gaming chair and talking over videos they didnt even make.
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Haha, preach bro! Feirreira is a tough fighter with surprisingly heavy hands
and with great jitz (he never touched gold, always ran into BJJ elites in those tournaments
but he was a strong competitor nonetheless), don't get me wrong, but he wasn't exactly like the elites that Pettis lost to before fighting him.
That's also my guess... that, frequent knee injuries, and relative inactivity where some of the criticism back then. In 2012, 2014 & 2015 (some of his prime years) he only fought once a year, and had to pull out of 2 fights in 2013 because of his knees injuries
Pettis was supposed to fight José Aldo at UFC 163, what a fight that could have been...
thankfully Korean Zombie took the fight on short notice and put on a show.
And the other one was Josh "The Punk" Thomson, another really good LW that you don't hear much about nowadays, but he was always dangerous then...
Anyway, dude had great, fast hands, feet and subs, but his wrestling was so-so. He still lost some fights where wrestling was a non-issue, like the Barboza bout, that didn't hit the ground a single time IIRC
It was just Edson throwing low kick after low kick until Pettis' tigh turned purple
and even if "Showtime" put on a hell of a fight, trying his hardest until the final horn, he still lost all 3 rounds...
Even Nate Diaz who had terrible wrestling was able to take Pettis down in each round of their fight, and hold him against the fence for long periods of time... Anthony was completely gassed by the end, while the legendary Diaz Cardio did its job.
Nate looked banged up by the end, but much like his brother or GSP, he's part of the "always looks worse than your opponent post fight, even if you won" crowd.
Damn right, it was a big upset.
Pettis was a massive favorite against RDA, who was on a nice little streak of his own (after losing to Khabib, he beat Jason High, Bendo & Nate Diaz in a row) but was still the rightful underdog.
Pettis had looked so good, lots of people expected him to become a dominant champ à la Aldo/GSP/Anderson, but sadly he only got to defend his belt once, even if it was against a badass assassin from the remnants of the Strikeforce army.
(I loved the Strikeforce team at Sakuraba's Quintet , it's such a shame that the org seemed to have died a couple years ago... I don't speak Japanese so if anyone has any info on why they haven't had an event since July 2021, I'm all ears)
The Clay Guida loss was officially forgiven and chalked up to "being green against a veteran with 3 times the number of pro fights he's had, plus Guida fights weird, and lots of elites somehow failed to implant their gameplans against him... Pettis, RDA, BJ Penn, Josh "The Punk" Thomson, Takanori Gomi, Tatsuya Kawaijiri, Nate Diaz, Joe Lauzon... "
"Just a weird decision loss, but it's not like he got badly beat up or anything...it wasn't a robbery by any means, but all 3 rounds were super close and could have been draw rounds won via control, with Guida scoring some takedowns but then not doing much with them, while Pettis was very active from the bottom and Guida was possibly saved by the belt in the second round"
Aaaanyway, it was weird back then to watch Pettis beat Bendo twice in decision fashion and get his belts from him, then lowly seeing Benson pass Pettis over in "Best LW ever" threads, in which people argued that while Pettis is 2-0 against him, Bendo still has the better overall record... and Henderson actually beat Clay Guida
But after Bendo started to stack up the losses in Bellator, seems like that kind of talk stopped.
Plus, a big chunk of Bendo's elite wins came from controversial split decisions
...
Soze, I didn't intend to make this a "Smooth" hate post, I'm just reminiscing
