International Antarctica is melting faster than we thought

[Contra-dictator]

we are all gonna die.

Several times, apparently.

 

[Jack Stevonovich]

This shit is in like the last two years:

Florida:

California:

Puerto Rico:

Houston:

The Atlantic Ocean:

who cares!? Palm trees in Canada.

 

[gatchaman]

You forgot to mention how there was a massive die off of ocean life because of ocean acidification and temperatures increasing in equatorial regions.

I'm not an ocean life. I'm a primate. And by your own evidence, primates thrived during the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum.

 

[Jack Stevonovich]

I'm not an ocean life. I'm a primate. And by your own evidence, primates thrived during the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum.

what @no fat chicks doesn't seem to understand is you only care about not having to go to cuba for palm trees anymore.

 

[gatchaman]

Yup.

More land, and more arable land and more bountiful resources (lumber, etc) have been present during these warmer cycles such as the Climate Optimum period. Northern Canada, Russia and China will gain far more land than will likely be lost in all coastal cities.

The big problem is we have evolved to be very possessive of our borders and people with roots and investments in property do not want to be forced to move and start over. And I get that. But the planets natural cycles don't care about that. And people demanding gov't protect them from such changes won't make the planets natural cycles listen.

All that said man should be aware of how we impact the natural cycles (accelerate and decelerate) as those time frames may or may not be impactful.

I'm all in favor of increasing my awareness if you would like to contribute.

 

[Fronk]

I don't think it is about making it personally responsible. I.E. a culture of shaming each other into recycling and buying organic.

The issue is bigger. We have to change the idea that capitalism is the final form of civilization itself.

Not because of any idealistic reasons but because we can't have an exponential growth model in a finite world.

It is just that simple.

Which means:

CAPITALISM IS AN UNSUSTAINABLE UTOPIAN FANTASY.

 

[gatchaman]

what @no fat chicks doesn't seem to understand is you only care about not having to go to cuba for palm trees anymore.

My doomsday scenarios (most likely a return to the glacial period in less than 10 thousand years and less likely a return to beneficial Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum conditions) are more realistic than your doomsday scenario.

 

[Jack Stevonovich]

My doomsday scenarios (most likely a return to the glacial period in less than 10 thousand years and less likely a return to beneficial Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum conditions) are more realistic than your doomsday scenario.

MY DAD CAN BEAT UP YOUR DAD!

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

The good thing is Florida will shrink.

 

[MikeMcMann]

I'm all in favor of increasing my awareness if you would like to contribute.

i suggest starting here.

 

[MikeMcMann]

The good thing is Florida will shrink.

Florida floats.

 

[trac209]

i suggest starting here.

Interesting read thanks for posting that. Man made global warming boogeyman is total bs.

 

[gatchaman]

i suggest starting here.

I'm done reading your wikipedia link about the Holocene climatic optimum. Is there anything that you wanted to discuss about it?

 

[Rematch]

Well, Los Angeles, your water issue will soon be solved.

 

[MikeMcMann]

I'm done reading your wikipedia link about the Holocene climatic optimum. Is there anything that you wanted to discuss about it?

Yup. Here and Here.

i will quiz you later to make sure you are getting enough out of them.

 

[Thai Otoshi]

Predictive analytics is more precise.

It doesn't make me wrong, in either case.

 

[gatchaman]

Yup. Here and Here.

i will quiz you later to make sure you are getting enough out of them.

I would like to ask you a question from your wikipedia link on the Little Ice Age. Because a change in temperature trend can be explained by a change from measuring apples to measuring oranges, can you find a single temperature record that includes both the Medieval Warm period and the Industrial Age?

From your link:

The dark line does not encompass both periods, but the red line could, and the red line shows it to be warmer in the Medieval Warm Period.

 

[Ice That Jaw]

 

[Shoemaker]

Florida floats.

Considering how full of sink holes it is, I'm not really surprised that it's that buoyant.

 

[MikeMcMann]

I would like to ask you a question from your wikipedia link on the Little Ice Age. Because a change in temperature trend can be explained by a change from measuring apples to measuring oranges, can you find a single temperature record that includes both the Medieval Warm period and the Industrial Age?

From your link:

The dark line does not encompass both periods, but the red line could, and the red line shows it to be warmer in the Medieval Warm Period.

Not sure what you are asking.

Are you trying to discern if indeed the climate and planet was warmer in the Medieval Warm Period than it is during today and the Industrial age and that is not just being measured in different ways (apples and oranges)?