Anderson would probably have ran through another LHW champ in Rashad

Erectile Disfunction Anderson destroys Rashad. Matter of fact, no dick pills Anderson destroys Rashad. This isn’t worth talking about.
 
The GOAT vs Conor. Give us the damn fight for once Dana!
 
DC beat him pretty easily.
The Fatty Goat? He couldn't even make 205 without the towwel and had to resort to TRT to be successful (T/E=0.19). Maybe DC could pull it off, he is the best wrassler at LHW/HW although he did nuttin significant against granpa Anderson.

A few of the bigger LHW would of given Anderson fits, Machida and couture beat him imo.
Machida is just smaller and weaker version of ANderson.
Couture got beat by Machida.

There’s a reason that Silva didn’t move up to LHW and fight for the title. He picked fights that he felt were winnable for him. I suppose if the stars would have aligned better he would have fought Forrest for the belt but otherwise, any of the LHW champs during his prime were not good matchups for him.
Anderson is the only dominant champ who moved up higher weight classes successfully and destroyed the bigger guys in 1 round. The others stayed in the safety of their own weight class. Learn your history boi.

Prime Anderson wouldve beaten every single fighter on the roster at the time with ease. Everyone knows that but the sport has evolved alot and after seeing what Conor 2.0 did to Cowboy at UFC 245 I dont think anyone can deny thats the highest level of fighting anyone has ever seen.
But COwboy was on a skid with a record of 4:6...

Oh so you like mma math? Did you happen to see Rashad vs Sonnen? It was man vs child.
See Machida vs Shad.
Machida is just lesser version of ANderson.

We will never know. Anderson was too scared to jump up and face legit competition at lhw. And don’t try say Forrest was legit, he was always a middle of the road guy.
Anderson is the only dominant champ who moved up higher weight classes successfully and destroyed the bigger guys in 1 round. The others stayed in the safety of their own weight class. Learn your history boi.
Forrest was the champ, one fight removed from the title. This win is just as good as if Anderson had won the LHW title.


205 Rumble puts Anderson in a coma....
1 round Rumble?
RUmble the quitter?
RUmmble that got finished by Vitor?
 
Oh yeah and he let Michael Jordan of BJJ take him down and mount him intentionally to show how impressive his BJJ is too.

Sure beat the world beaters at LHW like Forrest, Bonnar and Irvin.
Anderson had double knee surgery prior to that fight
 
There’s a reason that Silva didn’t move up to LHW and fight for the title. He picked fights that he felt were winnable for him. I suppose if the stars would have aligned better he would have fought Forrest for the belt but otherwise, any of the LHW champs during his prime were not good matchups for him.
Did he really? How many people turned him down? He fought people who were willing.
 
The Fatty Goat? He couldn't even make 205 without the towwel and had to resort to TRT to be successful (T/E=0.19). Maybe DC could pull it off, he is the best wrassler at LHW/HW although he did nuttin significant against granpa Anderson.
Underrated post right there. People always seem to ignore strange Cormier T/E ratios, like this one for instance.
 
Underrated post right there. People always seem to ignore strange Cormier T/E ratios, like this one for instance.

Weidman too, unreal 0.09, impossible for live human being. A big reason I hate on him when he said granpa Vitor was cheating.
People forget that DC cheated on the weigh ins too, came in at 206.2, thus he was never eligible for the ufc 210 title shot.
 
1. Forrest was the winning the fight against Rashad. You can rewatch the fight here:

In contrast Forrest didn't even land a punch against Anderson.

2. Rashad actually came down to 185, to string a terrible record.




Except for Jones, I don't see any other LHW that stops Anderson.


First off Evans was the closest anyone ever came to beating Jones. Totally believe he could KO AS, especially later. My doubt would be at this particular time period AS fought Forrest. Others have won rounds against Jones, Vitor almost subbed him but no one's ever came closer to KO'ing Jones than Evans and at that point he was heads and shoulders above anyone else.

Anyhow you're judging Evans on that one fight. Evans struggled cause he's smaller than most LHW's and Griffins all about keeping you away but Evans was basically DC at the time well rounded wrestler, striker. Evans also was a fighter who improved drastically over time. When Evans started he wasn't nearly as good as later. By the time of his knee injury that ended his relevance he was dominating a roided Chael that AS struggled against. Without the injury he likely beats DC and ends up becoming even more of a legend. Even in this time besides Machida who destroyed him, he beat every elite LHW except Rua who he never fought. He also did better against Jones than any of the old guard(Machida won a round too but look how that ended).

Fun facts until he beat Jones, Machida was his only loss, until post knee injury in 2016 Machida was also the only one to ever KO him. It was a horrible loss and a meme but it also never happened again against all sorts of elite strikers until Evans wasn't relevant. AS KO'ing Evans would not have been an easy task and Evans was far used to fighting killers in the LHW division than AS at MW. He fought Vitor but due to AS reputation Vitor sure didn't act like a killer. Henderson I truly believe was better than AS and got unlucky.

I am more confident Machida or Rua would beat AS than Evans(especially at the time you're talking about, later on think they all destroy AS). AS actually said Machida was better. But I'm still confident Evans would have won. Forrest Griffin was UFC LHW champ but he was a distant fifth behind Machida, Rua, Evans and Rampage probably behind Thiago Silva too who never fought for the belt. Griffin got there with 2 huge upsets, the first over a guy adjusting to the new rules that took away much of what he did in Pride the second a very bizzare fight he was very lucky to win. He overacheived to a point he was at a level he didn't belong.


AS was a bad matchup for Forrest cause his style was dependent on being bigger than LHW's. Basically what people accused Jones of being. AS height and reach wise was bigger than most LHW's except Forrest,which is why he doesn't deserve credit for going up. Credit for going up is supposed to be based on beating larger people and based on division preference once you get to 185+ that stops becoming a universial principle(especially today where Izzy is taller than almost every LHW and HW).
 
Anderson could have been the LHW champ anytime he wanted until Jones became champ.

Anderson destroyed former champ (one fight removed) Forrest and James Irvin confirmed that Rashad ducked him.

Prime Silva beats every MW and LHW ever except perhaps prime Jones.

People who lived through this time know it was bs, non champs in that division sold more PPV's than AS for a reason. People also said he'd beat Jones and were COCKY about that. They don't want to acknowledge that but it was true. Machida and Evans did better against Jones than AS would have done. AS moved up to LHW three times and never fought for the title for a reason. What he did is worse than GSP because he took advantage of people misunderstanding size to get credit for easier fights.

Forrest's status as champ is very misleading. As champ he was probably the sixth best fighter in the division(behind the big four and Thiago Silva who probably destroys Griffin). He got there by overachieving beating Rua in his first UFC fight(different rules that effected Rua's style), then that bizzare fight with Rampage. Forrest overacheived to a point where the fall was inevitable. AS was also a horrible matchup for Forrest because Forrest relied on his size(6 foot 3 was massive at that time) especially against Rampage. Against Evans this is how he won that first round. Evans is basically DC, small elite wrestler who also has great striking though Evans think had more power.

AS could have done it, he moved up three times anyway but he fought Forrest, Bonnar and Irvin. AS was BIGGER than most if not all LHW's at the time height and reach wise(except Forrest but Forrest was depending on that more than AS, say like the huge 66 guys at HW who don't win) people who say he'd be at a disadvantage don't understand size. Could have done it, at times had no opponents and moved up to LHW, why not for the title and if not for the title why fight by far the easiest former champ?

Absent the belt GSP abandoned after beating Bisping how is this any different than what GSP did? Difference is Bisping actually was an elite MW for years who didn't get a title shot because he lost to Hendo and Sonnen(decision he arguably won)later beat AS with one eye. Forrest's status as an elite LHW was based on 2 of the biggest upsets in the sports history combined with the company literally owing him for saving them from bankruptcy. Forrest looks better than Irvin and Bonnar cause he was champ but using it as proof he could have won the LHW belt cause Griffin did is BS.
 
@ferrisjso , so many thing you said wrong, don't know where to start.
Evans was not even close to beating Jones, Jones comfortably fighting all the round. Jones was in close fight/ lost the fights in Gus, Mareta and Dom.
Machida destroyed Shad, and MAchida is just waterdowned version of AS.
Shogun was too slow and stiff, stood next to no chance against AS, fits perfectly to his fighting style.
Anderson said Machida was better, lol at you, they were friends and teammates.
Anderson was not just as big as the LHW. Anderson NEVER prepared for his LHW fights, he never put on mass, he was fighting as a MW at LHW, just didn't cut any weight for the wiegh ins. You could clearly see AS was very soft at LHW. He was giving up 20 pounds of muscle advantage over these huge LHWs and he still won in spectacular fashion.
Forrest being a champ is as misleading as Machida, Shogun, Rampage being champs. They were all just temporary champ, waiting for Jones to come to the scene. AS beats all these champs up.
 
Clown shoes post and thread. Post Machida is the best Rashad we have ever seen. He used his wrestling much better and gameplanned better. I can see Rashad laying on Anderson for 3-5 rounds.
 
@ferrisjso , so many thing you said wrong, don't know where to start.
Evans was not even close to beating Jones, Jones comfortably fighting all the round. Jones was in close fight/ lost the fights in Gus, Mareta and Dom.
Machida destroyed Shad, and MAchida is just waterdowned version of AS.
Shogun was too slow and stiff, stood next to no chance against AS, fits perfectly to his fighting style.
Anderson said Machida was better, lol at you, they were friends and teammates.
Anderson was not just as big as the LHW. Anderson NEVER prepared for his LHW fights, he never put on mass, he was fighting as a MW at LHW, just didn't cut any weight for the wiegh ins. You could clearly see AS was very soft at LHW. He was giving up 20 pounds of muscle advantage over these huge LHWs and he still won in spectacular fashion.
Forrest being a champ is as misleading as Machida, Shogun, Rampage being champs. They were all just temporary champ, waiting for Jones to come to the scene. AS beats all these champs up.

I didn't say CLOSE, I said CLOSEST, not even to winning to KO'ing. He's the closest anyone's gotten to KO'ing Jones that kick he landed would have taken out most elite fighters. Didn't say the fight was close, it was a 4-1,3-2 stretching it, decision like the DC fight.

Machida is better than AS IMO, even if AS was joking, AS resume being better is cause he was in the more shallow division. Never got to prove it cause he went to a tougher division still his 8 fight streak was one of the longest ever. After losing to Rua in his uncharactistly aggressive rematch(egged on my criticism of his fight style), he wasn't finished again or even lost a clear decision for many years except the Jones fight. First MW loss was to Weidman who'd KO'd AS. So how would AS have done better? Think he'd have done better against Jones and not dropped close decisions? I mean at MW AS barely avoided losing to Sonnen.

Size advantage comes from height and reach not mass. Your frame is a reflection how mobile you could be with putting on more weight. AS was taller than every elite LHW at the time except Forrest who was an outlier prior to Jones.

Yeah BS about the other champs being as fake. Machida won 8 in a row one of the longest streaks ever and while that mostly wasn't title fights, he beat two unbeaten fighters Thiago Silva and Shad back to back, beat Sokodjou who was seen as on the same level as Shogun when they fought(he got cut from the UFC they had too many fighters at LHW, but dude would hold titles at other promotions for years). Didn't get finished besides Jones and Shogun for many years, did better against Weidman.

Rampage's only 2 losses between 07 and losing to Jones were decision losses to Forrest and Rashad. The only guys to finish Rampage in like 16 years read Shogun, Jones, Fedor.

Rampage and Machida could have ruled that entire period with a little bit of luck. Only one I'm inclined to agree was a placeholder is Rua because he was riding largely on his Pride reputation as a killer. He got the title shot after beating two ancient fighters in Coleman and Liddell because no one ranked higher was available. Then got a rematch cause the decision was controversial and sat out a year before fighting Jones. So inclined to agree he served as a placeholder but while he didn't do very much after the Pride GP besides fight Machida twice that's still enough to establish he was on that level.

And maybe AS could have fought these champs instead of Griffin, Irvin and Bonnar if he felt that way. He'd cleaned out his division several times and did it so why not? Even Thiago Silva I think would have beat him in this era fact that guy never fought for the title shows how stacked the division was.

Jones was 23, he was a prodigy but truth is he got the shot against Rua because Evans and Rampage who were ranked ahead were injured(and cause Machida didn't make sense with 2 losses in a row). Whole reason people consider Jones GOAT is cause he BEAT those placeholders so easily. He has done less IMO since 2013 then he did before and IMO he was already the GOAT just by beating all four of them. Biggest reason he wasn't is cause AS and GSP's streaks were still going. But the whole basis of Jones being considered the GOAT is how big the top LHW's were, Rampage and Rashad in particular could sell more PPV's than most champs. They were not just placeholders and the reason they didn't have longer runs is cause they ran into each other unlike AS who struggled to beat Sonnen(who Jones and Evans dominated,again not Rua admitting a weak link here again).

Forrest was never part of that equation his win over Rua was one of the biggest upsets ever and his Rampage win was slightly less of one. Forrest was done at that point, he'd been KO'd by Keith fucking Jardine and Rua might have been number one not in LHW BUT P4P when they fought. Those 2 wins are the basis of his whole career other than that clearly not on the same level and retired in 2012 once Rua rematch made that crystal clear. Thiago Silva was inferior to Forrest only in that he ran into Machida and Evans and lost, that dude was on this level. Griffin likely loses to the Strikeforce champs at the time tbh.
 
@ferrisjso , so many thing you said wrong, don't know where to start.
Evans was not even close to beating Jones, Jones comfortably fighting all the round. Jones was in close fight/ lost the fights in Gus, Mareta and Dom.
Machida destroyed Shad, and MAchida is just waterdowned version of AS.
Shogun was too slow and stiff, stood next to no chance against AS, fits perfectly to his fighting style.
Anderson said Machida was better, lol at you, they were friends and teammates.
Anderson was not just as big as the LHW. Anderson NEVER prepared for his LHW fights, he never put on mass, he was fighting as a MW at LHW, just didn't cut any weight for the wiegh ins. You could clearly see AS was very soft at LHW. He was giving up 20 pounds of muscle advantage over these huge LHWs and he still won in spectacular fashion.
Forrest being a champ is as misleading as Machida, Shogun, Rampage being champs. They were all just temporary champ, waiting for Jones to come to the scene. AS beats all these champs up.
Stopped after Machida is watered down AS. Machida had extremely good takedown defense. Dictating where the fight took place is huge.
 
1. Forrest was the winning the fight against Rashad. You can rewatch the fight here:

In contrast Forrest didn't even land a punch against Anderson.

2. Rashad actually came down to 185, to string a terrible record.




Except for Jones, I don't see any other LHW that stops Anderson.


Damn man, stating facts here, sherdoggers will not like this...
 
We will never know. Anderson was too scared to jump up and face legit competition at lhw. And don’t try say Forrest was legit, he was always a middle of the road guy.

how is he a middle of the road guy when he gave Rashad a damn good fight, and beat rampage????
and wins a belt? he's obviously better than middle of the road..
 

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