**Anderson vs Jones** Poll

[Chappi]

Why do people think it's even close ??
The only reason that Jones defeated 4 former champs is that there were many champs in a relative short period in the LH weights.
The only former champ for Anderson to beat is Rich and AS beat him twice.
All the other former champs are gone, that's how long AS is champ !!!!:icon_chee
Calling it close between JJ and AS is a joke.

 

[FlyThai**]

That's correct, he's a bigger man now. The rest is irrelevant.

So as a WW he bulked up in order to fight bigger guys. He's a warrior!

 

[EmeliankoFan1]

Jones is outside of his natural weight class the same way Anderson is outside his.

Shogun was champ and coming off the best performance of his career. Rampage was coming from 2 good wins against Machida and Hamill.

You want to talk about how they were at the time of the fight or today?

How's Rich doing these days?

More jones is out of his weight class mantra.

I love Silva fans but that does not work with Silva v Jones. Silva is a big MW and couture made mention of how big Silva was in terms of making MW.

When Silva was a WW, he enjoyed a larger height advantage then jones did and lost a few fights to much smaller fighters.

The jones is out of his weight class just doesnt work with Silva, they should really stop trying to push that and Jones actually cuts less then Silva to make LHW then Silva has to cut to make MW.

It takes nothing away from Silva who is a p4p great fighter but those weight claims just dont hold water when Silva is involved.

 

[wilKO]

Jones 2012 record is more impressive than silva's whole career

I agree. Beating Vitor Belfort and almost getting arm barred and decisioning Rashad Evans is better than beating Vitor Belfort by front kick to the face and 15 other UFC wins and other notable career wins... WTF am I reading???

 

[EmeliankoFan1]

Why do people think it's even close ??
The only reason that Jones defeated 4 former champs is that there were many champs in a relative short period in the LH weights.
The only former champ for Anderson to beat is Rich and AS beat him twice.
All the other former champs are gone, that's how long AS is champ !!!!:icon_chee
Calling it close between JJ and AS is a joke.

Shogun, Machida, Rashad and Jackson are very good fighters.

Sadly p4p those fighters are talented fighters on par with hendo, and Machida is on par with Anderson.

Literally in that short time, jones has fought a gauntlet of top division fighters whereas silva has fought good fighters but none who were truly great outside of Hendo and Franklin.

Andersons best wins are not better then jones best wins.

I do think Anderson has had the better career but in terms of fighting great or even decent opponents jones is ahead of Silva.

 

[Rozwell]

5 defenses at LHW > 10 defenses at MW
Rashad, Machida, Shogun, Rampage in a row > Anything anderson has done in his career

You know when your best opponents are guys comming off losses (Forrest, Henderson) or guys with no top wins at MW (Vitor) or guys with more than 10 losses and no major accomplishments (Sonnen) it says a lot about your level of opposition.

Anderson has made a career out of beating mid tier opponents, and he has more low tier fighters in his UFC resume than he has world class. He might be the more decorated fighter, but when looking closer it's beyond obvious his record is padded.

Not to mention Jones is the better fighter. While Anderson gets beaten up by one dimensional wrestlers, Jones is treating elite fighters like kids. While Anderson gets outruck by wrestlers, Jones drops elite strikers, while Anderson clowns guys like Bonnar, Okami, etc. Jones clowns guys like Shogun, Rampage and Rashad.

Anderson is great and all, but competition matters. Being the greatest of a weak division can't take you that far. Not testing himself in deep waters will forever hurt his legacy.

This is the most biased crap I've ever seen.

Beating Shogun is impressive, but beating Hendo or Forrest (embarrassingly), who beat Shogun, is not?

Anderson destroying Vitor is not impressive, but Jones almost getting his arm ripped off by Vitor and coming back to win is?

And Anderson hasn't tested himself? Come back and tell me that when Jones goes up to HW to fight (and humiliate) a former HW champion.

Stop making Sherdog dumber.

 

[R0bert0Lu0ng0**]

thread should have stopped right here.

only people voting for Jones are Anderson haters and how ever many accounts idontbelieveit has

idontbelieveit is also claude and emelianenkofan1

probably has a lot more we dont know of too

 

[EmeliankoFan1]

idontbelieveit is also claude and emelianenkofan1

probably has a lot more we dont know of too

???

No I am not kid and if you read the post, I was talking to Claude and making the retort towards him.

 

[Claude]

So as a WW he bulked up in order to fight bigger guys. He's a warrior!

Or he just didn't feel comfortable making WW anymore. You know you don't need to bulk up to move up in weight. Age, nutrition, genetics, and a lot of factors come in play.

People say Jones will eventually have trouble cutting down to 205, and it's not because he will bulk, it's because he will age.

Moving from a tough division to a weak division ain't really a warrior thing, but i don't blame him, he's bigger now. I do think he needs to fight at 205 however.

 

[Rozwell]

Shogun, Machida, Rashad and Jackson are very good fighters.

Sadly p4p those fighters are talented fighters on par with hendo, and Machida is on par with Anderson.

Literally in that short time, jones has fought a gauntlet of top division fighters whereas silva has fought good fighters but none who were truly great outside of Hendo and Franklin.

Andersons best wins are not better then jones best wins.

I do think Anderson has had the better career but in terms of fighting great or even decent opponents jones is ahead of Silva.

Again with the double standards.

You apparently consider Rampage and Shogun top wins for Jones, but Forrest was not a top win for Silva.

 

[NoseOverTail]

This poll is an insult to Anderson Silva's career.

Asking the question shows just how incredibly dumb some people are.

This

 

[Akira Yuki]

You always hear how "delusional Anderson fans" are the only ones who would think Anderson has a stronger resume than Jones, but based on the result it seems we have a small vocal minority (you know who you are) on sherdog repeating the same lie over and over again in an attempt to discredit Anderson.

 

[Idonotbelieveit]

thread should have stopped right here.

only people voting for Jones are Anderson haters and how ever many accounts idontbelieveit has

nope.. anderson has one elite win in the ufc.

jones fought 4 elite fighters in a row..

 

[EmeliankoFan1]

Again with the double standards.

You apparently consider Rampage and Shogun top wins for Jones, but Forrest was not a top win for Silva.

Shogun and Rampage were good wins for Jones. Rashad and Machida were top wins for Jones.

Forrest was a good win for silva as was Cheal.

 

[Claude]

idontbelieveit is also claude and emelianenkofan1

probably has a lot more we dont know of too

Yeah we're all the same dude. You're getting tooled all over again by the same person....

Hey you still think JDS is the HW GOAT?

:icon_lol:

 

[R0bert0Lu0ng0**]

Yeah we're all the same dude. You're getting tooled all over again by the same person....

Hey you still think JDS is the HW GOAT?

:icon_lol:

I'll put Cain ahead of JDS for now.

Until one of them gets embarrassed by a 40 year old middleweight, its hard to put Fedor ahead of either of them since they both already have better wins.

 

[dieknowsore]

Hey you still think JDS is the HW GOAT?

:icon_lol:

i do

 

[wilKO]

nope.. anderson has one elite win in the ufc.

jones fought 4 elite fighters in a row..

So Rampage is an elite win but Forrest isn't??? Rampage was clearly out of prime. More so than Forrest who beat Rampage.

 

[Idonotbelieveit]

5 defenses at LHW > 10 defenses at MW
Rashad, Machida, Shogun, Rampage in a row > Anything anderson has done in his career

You know when your best opponents are guys comming off losses (Forrest, Henderson) or guys with no top wins at MW (Vitor) or guys with more than 10 losses and no major accomplishments (Sonnen) it says a lot about your level of opposition.

Anderson has made a career out of beating mid tier opponents, and he has more low tier fighters in his UFC resume than he has world class. He might be the more decorated fighter, but when looking closer it's beyond obvious his record is padded.

Not to mention Jones is the better fighter. While Anderson gets beaten up by one dimensional wrestlers, Jones is treating elite fighters like kids. While Anderson gets outruck by wrestlers, Jones drops elite strikers, while Anderson clowns guys like Bonnar, Okami, etc. Jones clowns guys like Shogun, Rampage and Rashad.

Anderson is great and all, but competition matters. Being the greatest of a weak division can't take you that far. Not testing himself in deep waters will forever hurt his legacy.

this is a good post, mw has always been weak and he only has fought hand picked fights @ 205.

jones career is better!

 

[effedup]

And Jon was proably a WW when he was a kid at highschool, who cares? he ain't that size anymore. People can get bigger with age, nutrition, weight lifting, etc.

Anderson's current fight weight is far above WW. Again how is he being a WW years ago is even relevant today?

:redface::redface: Jones doesn't have a professional fight at WW...

Do you see a 38 year old man putting on 20lb or more of muscle so he can fight at 205 competitively?

The point about WW is that people don't typically move up 2 divisions above from where they started their career. Like I said if you know one fill free to put the name down. Hypothetically Anderson could fight at HW, doesn't mean that's his natural weight class. Anderson is in his natural weight class, the guy cuts from 205...

Is he skilled enough to fight at 205? Sure, but that's not what you were talking about.